James Gray - Page 3

Potter · 13-02-2015, 08:17

Has Marcus been treated badly? Bowerman? Hatfield? Windass (he's probably played a similar number of mins).....

Or do you have a direct line to all the thoughts and feelings of players in the squad?

cashman · 13-02-2015, 08:20

At least 1 of those has. got a direct line to stupidity though.

DAV007 · 13-02-2015, 11:00

Cashman, your avoiding the issue

dabeast · 13-02-2015, 11:38

I can understand gray being dropped for johnno, who made an impact and was pretty much playing in his accustomed role. In a similar way I get that gornell starts ahead of him. But I don't get the crooks situation and can see that as being insulting towards gray. Its almost like subbing the keeper for a midfielder to go in the nets..

shakermaker · 13-02-2015, 11:42

Surely the best way to fight for your place is to show form while getting match practice at a good level? Seems like an unwise move to me but we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. Unlike others on here I wouldn't want to play pantomime and vilify the player or the manager

Exile on Spencer St · 13-02-2015, 12:01

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Surely the best way to fight for your place is to show form while getting match practice at a good level?

That's true, Shaker, but how does that approach square with Mr.Carver's loan? He could get a hat-trick in six consecutive games for Barrow but that would do him no favours in fighting for his place at Stanley.
I just hope Messrs Coleman and Gray can sort things out. It's not many clubs that loan out their top scorer. But Gray has to man-up on the pitch and cut out the petulance that got him sent off at Oxford and the diving. And Professor Coleman will, I trust, respect Gray's determination to 'fight for his place', and to stand up to him (if the Southport loan was indeed the manager's suggestion), rather than hold a grievance for the rest of the season.

maccawozzagod · 13-02-2015, 12:22

I've got a better idea, let's get Beattie back 'cos he liked him

this forum is crap now, same old drivel on every single thread being posted

maccawozzagod · 13-02-2015, 12:26

BBC Sport - James Gray: Southport cancel loan after one training session

maybe more to it than "I want to fight for my place"?

cashman · 13-02-2015, 12:37

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Cashman, your avoiding the issue

Usual dross from you Davo, i said at least 1, Avoiding the issue is you about J.B. yeh been asked by quite a few, but never answered.

cashman · 13-02-2015, 12:59

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

I've got a better idea, let's get Beattie back 'cos he liked him

this forum is crap now, same old drivel on every single thread being posted

Now be fair, everyone can't be as eloquent as you.

Exile on Spencer St · 13-02-2015, 14:00

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

....this forum is crap now, same old drivel on every single thread being posted

I agree, especially with those who bring Mr.Beattie at any and every opportunity.

StanleyAccrington · 13-02-2015, 15:21

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Originally Posted by FrankMoody

You seem to know a lot about it!
So he should accept being forced out and ostracised of he doesn't go with a smile on his face, what a crock. If what you say is true fair play to the lad for standing up to the terrible twosome.

I know nothing - it's all guesswork, opinion and assumption.

He wasn't in Coleman's plans anyway, hence his sporadic appearances from the bench every few games, so turning down a loan move and a chance to play some games is hardly going to endear him to the manager, is it? He's messed around and ****ed off a few people at both clubs with his actions and tweet which doesn't reflect well upon him either.

He isn't out of contract until June 2016 and I doubt Coleman will want to keep him around next season so I assume James will be offered the chance to leave at the end of the season. Looking at the situation, he shouldn't want to stay and waste a year of his career at his age when it would be better spent elsewhere playing games regularly and developing as a player rather than coming in to train every day at Stanley hoping for a miracle that sees him get back in the team.

Alvin the chipmunk · 13-02-2015, 16:13

Just because Marcus is local everybody seems to think he's the next Messi. Would people be raving about him if he was scouse? Absolutely ridiculous.

He is a grafter yes...but so is my plumber and I don't think he should start every game. I hope he comes back a better player but he is nowhere near being a first team regular at this moment.

Alvin the chipmunk · 13-02-2015, 16:17

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Originally Posted by FrankMoody

If what you say is true fair play to the lad for standing up to the terrible twosome.

Disagree. The manager has to be in charge at any club. He is effectively the players line manger. Look at Sir Alex Feguson with Jaap Staam and David Beckham. Otherwise you end up with a "mutiny on the bounty" scenario.

DAV007 · 13-02-2015, 16:18

I agree Carver deserves praise for all of his non footballing assets, his actual ability with a ball at his feet is somewhat limited.

James Gray only has himself to blame.