Late late Scunny thread

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by Revived Red

I suspect you will be in a minority in thinking that Craney linked play well for 45 minutes.

I also think that Craney linked play well, he put some good passed through to Guthrie who then wasted them - was that Craney's fault. At Northampton he put a brilliant reverse pass through to Charlie Barnett who then wasted the opportunity - was that Craney's fault. Everybody on the Clayton end around me seems to be picking on Craney. Even when he is nowhere near the ball it is his fault if something goes wrong. I don't hear anybody criticising Proccy when his passes go astray and his arm goes up in the air to apologise. His arm must be aching after every game. I don't hear anybody criticising Guthrie after he wased chances. Stop picking on Craney and give your Stanley players the support that they need.

[smudgie]

Can u honestly say craney has been playing well jeff? You must be watching a different game to me and 99% of everybody else.

[Revived Red]

Originally Posted by JEFF

Everybody on the Clayton end around me seems to be picking on Craney.

And everybody in the main stand around me seems to be picking on Craney. How very strange.

Originally Posted by JEFF

I don't hear anybody criticising Proccy when his passes go astray and his arm goes up in the air to apologise. His arm must be aching after every game.

What a very strange comparison. How can you possibly compare a player who covers just about every blade of grass during a game and never shirks a tackle to one who chases nothing and ensures he is just too late to tackle.

Originally Posted by JEFF

I don't hear anybody criticising Guthrie after he wased chances.

Guthrie's effort and non-stop running was tremendous. Certainly no criticism from me.

Originally Posted by JEFF

Stop picking on Craney.

I reserve the right to comment on any performance which I (and many others) consider to be below standard.

Originally Posted by JEFF

give your Stanley players the support that they need.

Why do you think I have a season ticket and travel from Bristol?

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Can u honestly say craney has been playing well jeff? You must be watching a different game to me and 99% of everybody else.

I am not saying that he is playing as well as he could do, but he is doing some good things. What I am trying to say is that people are singling him out to criticise and not criticising other players who are making mistakes. When anything goes wrong it is always Craney's name that is shouted, even if he is at the other end of the field.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by JEFF

I am not saying that he is playing as well as he could do, but he is doing some good things. What I am trying to say is that people are singling him out to criticise and not criticising other players who are making mistakes. When anything goes wrong it is always Craney's name that is shouted, even if he is at the other end of the field.

I aint anti craney as anyone i stand wi will tell yeh, honestly thought he looked overweight,unfit n was crap on tuesday, fer whatever reason is irrelevant! perhaps some expect too much from him,cos of his pedigree? whereas most of the others aint got one,so in the main leave em alone, in my view he is one who can change/win a game n players of that calibre are few n far between, but if a player aint fit, should not be on the field imho or what message does that send to the fringe players?

[Whalley Red]

I thought that when we were at our most dangerous in the first 15-20 minutes, a lot of the link-up play involved good touches from Craney. When he started to disappear from the gameplay, we looked much less effective going forward, if effective at all. It was when we were under pressure in the second half that he virtually became a passenger.

I agree with everyone else that defensively we look very good despite the lack of cover in front of the defence in the second half. Could we be starting this season the same as last year with very few goals conceded and plenty of 0-0 draws away from home?

I wasn't at the match last Saturday, but the problem on Tuesday for me was that, apart from the first 15-20 minutes when we totally dominated the game, there was no outlet for Joyce when he received the ball from the keeper. The movement of the midfield in front of him was very poor IMO and with their forwards closing down on our full-backs, there were many times when he found himself under pressure and had to get rid of the ball, sometimes with passes that put our full-backs under even more pressure.

We were clearly playing against a very good League 1 side, but this is one area that will need to be improved against Southend.

[football19]

It wasnt a coincidence that when the keeper was told to ignore the fullbacks and punt the ball down field that the game changed.
I presume, because of the good start we got,the gaffer thought we would get a bit of joy picking up the second balls,but they didnt.
I think we had more joy down the channels and the fullbacks joining in getting crosses in,and picking up the second balls from there clearences.
When your struggling to get your second wind,you start to play within yourself,and a few on the night stopped tracking or making runs.
If you play from the back,the opposion have to press you,giving you the opportunity to shape the balls down the channels or clip it into the forwards feet,or get joycy on the ball.
When you go long via the keeper its really a game of luck,and playing one up front doesnt help the cause.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by football19

It wasnt a coincidence that when the keeper was told to ignore the fullbacks and punt the ball down field that the game changed.
I presume, because of the good start we got,the gaffer thought we would get a bit of joy picking up the second balls,but they didnt.
I think we had more joy down the channels and the fullbacks joining in getting crosses in,and picking up the second balls from there clearences.
When your struggling to get your second wind,you start to play within yourself,and a few on the night stopped tracking or making runs.
If you play from the back,the opposion have to press you,giving you the opportunity to shape the balls down the channels or clip it into the forwards feet,or get joycy on the ball.
When you go long via the keeper its really a game of luck,and playing one up front doesnt help the cause.

Put simply they were sodding knackered n yet again ****** all was done about it.

[football19]

not a very technical answer cashy,but it made me laugh coz you are spot on !!!

[cashman]

Originally Posted by football19

not a very technical answer cashy,but it made me laugh coz you are spot on !!!

Technical n cashy are not really good bedfellows, always believed in cutting the crap n saying how i see it.