Late late Scunny thread

mab · 09-08-2011, 22:25

First half thought we bossed the game and unlucky not to go in at half time at least 2 goals to the good,How the ref mist that hand ball i'll never know,nice to see jimmy back although not for long

young Guthrie played well as did the team as a whole,second half just could seem to get going and pinned back for most ,thought the ref and main stand liner were awful for almost the 90 mins

shakermaker · 09-08-2011, 22:42

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Originally Posted by mab

First half thought we bossed the game and unlucky not to go in at half time at least 2 goals to the good,How the ref mist that hand ball i'll never know,nice to see jimmy back although not for long

young Guthrie played well as did the team as a whole,second half just could seem to get going and pinned back for most ,thought the ref and main stand liner were awful for almost the 90 mins

Agree with most of that mab; all except for the part about the referee and the liner. I thought the standard of officiating was good enough for the majority of the game. The penalty looked very dubious to me from my angle (just looked as if their player was out-muscled rather than fouled), but I'd have to see it again.

Positives from the game: Our first-half confidence, spirit and organisation. The partnership between Kevin Long and Kern 'the Colonel' Millar, Luke Joyce's midfield domination and Kurtis Guthrie's first half performance.

Negatives: Almost everything else. Kevin McIntyre is not a full-back. On the ball he is good, he tackles well, but his positioning is absolutely awful in that role; always drifting inside. The Iron's right winger could've built a car park in the amount of space he was given down that flank. Our attacking three playing behind the striker were completely ineffective. Barnett is a central player playing out of position; he is unwilling to track back on the flanks or interchange with the others in the three. Lindfield is still a novice at this system and manages to get himself isolated regularly but did work hard. Craney is a country mile off the pace and even failing in his distribution. Guthrie was knackered in the second half due to a) his lack of match fitness to league football standard and b) the failure of the aforementioned attacking players to give him service. Coley's subs were laughable.

We desperately need two attacking midfield players that can push for starts, not just cover. On that note, I believe it was a big mistake to let go of Parkinson.

Lots learned from that tie for the league campaign.

cashman · 09-08-2011, 22:45

thought we took first half no question,scunny only really had that header, guthrie started ok but faded, has much to learn, but shows promise, thought Craney looked like he ate all the pies,very poor. second half scunny showed why they were in the championship, n bossed the game,Highlight for me Deano's tackle on Jimmy.

Lowpoint, once again no subs until 2/3 mins to go, n then i reckon only cos scunny had scored.

we needed freshning up much sooner. overall defence looked good, very lightweight up front, need another option, my thoughts won't break any pots this season,but certainly won't be in danger. if i'm right that'll do me.

football19 · 09-08-2011, 23:20

Agreed with all that Cashy,which worries me a little bit!!!.
Although he grafted in the first half,Gutherie missed 3 great chances in the first 10 minutes,I hope he gets his first league goal soon as you cant expect to win games being so wasteful.Indeed he wasnt the only one,both craney and craig were the same.
The game changed when we stopped playing it from the back,and went long via the keepers boot(it wasnt the players who changed it ,all the main stand heard the instructions!).
Subs should of been made earlier,as at least 5 players"died" with 25 mins to go.
The left back just got more and more exposed as the midfield tired and struggled to help him.
Positives,we looked good when playing it from the back,we created enough chances to win 2 games,and once again defended ok.
PS anyone see Grant headbutt Deano and then shout the ref!!,big tough lad is our granty,knowing he had already been booked.
Will be interesting if they ever bump into each other socially outside football

cashman · 09-08-2011, 23:26

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Originally Posted by football19

Agreed with all that Cashy,which worries me a little bit!!!.
Although he grafted in the first half,Gutherie missed 3 great chances in the first 10 minutes,I hope he gets his first league goal soon as you cant expect to win games being so wasteful.Indeed he wasnt the only one,both craney and craig were the same.
The game changed when we stopped playing it from the back,and went long via the keepers boot(it wasnt the players who changed it ,all the main stand heard the instructions!).
Subs should of been made earlier,as at least 5 players"died" with 25 mins to go.
The left back just got more and more exposed as the midfield tired and struggled to help him.
Positives,we looked good when playing it from the back,we created enough chances to win 2 games,and once again defended ok.
PS anyone see Grant headbutt Deano and then shout the ref!!,big tough lad is our granty,knowing he had already been booked.
Will be interesting if they ever bump into each other socially outside football

Oh i can talk sense.................sometimes.

cashman · 09-08-2011, 23:31

To be frank probably better off out of it wi such a small squad, no good hoping fer a big tie that might never come.

new red · 10-08-2011, 09:02

We had more of the play in the first half but unfortunately Lindfield and Guthrie couldnt capitalise on our chances. Both dont look ready for this just yet and its going to be a problem not having reserve games to get the practice in. We still need a striker that can do the job and hold his own. Defence is looking strong so there are some positives but without new signings for midfield/strikers I think it will be a long season.

jaysay · 10-08-2011, 09:23

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Originally Posted by cashman

Oh i can talk sense.................sometimes.

You sure

Owd Bob · 10-08-2011, 09:47

Quote PS anyone see Grant headbutt Deano and then shout the ref!!,big tough lad is our granty,knowing he had already been booked.

I saw that as it happened right in front of me. There was a bit of a tussle between the two beforehand, which led to the head-butt.

Their pen was definitely correct - reckless challenge!

lancsdave · 10-08-2011, 10:13

Considering the step up he's made I thought young Guthrie showed a lot of promise. He obviously lacks experience but that will come with time.Definatley need another forward or attacking midfield player to help him out or even replace him some games. Sometimes you need to learn from the bench . Scunthorpe definatley stepped it up in the second half.

football19 · 10-08-2011, 10:28

Agree with that owd bob,and the young lad will learn from that,the striker was going away from goal and there was no need to try and win it.
It was one of them situations were sometimes you get them,sometimes you dont,he just showed his inexperience against a good forward,who upto that,played him well.
As for Grant,i have no time for him.Obviously thinks hes "big time" know(un-like ryan and symesy etc..),but his appearences/starts since leaving Acci suggests otherwise.Indeed when Ryan went off,he still wasnt brought on,and that says a lot.
For him to headbutt Deano and call the ref,hoping for a reaction,about sums him up.
One thing is for sure,there paths will cross again,and i doubt Grant will end up smiling

smudgie · 10-08-2011, 16:27

Well my two pence worth..................... Some positives and Some negatives for me personally last night.

We have to remember they where in THE CHAMPIONSHIP only last season, and will be challenging to go up again.

Thought we dominated in the 1st half and could easily have gone in 2-0 up.

Thought we looked pretty good at the back almost all game, Murdoch has been a great find in goal, his handling and all round game I cant fault him, no chance with either goal.

Miller and Long defy their years and looked steady up until the final 10 mins, We have to remember Kern has only played 1 game before joining us.

Midfield of Proccy and Joyce I have no problem with......... but Barnett is NOT a winger, we have seen it last season, especially in the first 20 games of the season, he is class in the center of the park, maybe we sacrifice 1 of him or Joycey????

Hopefully Coid is back for Saturday and can play a Midfield role as he really looked class in pre-season in that role.

Lindfield is looking far better than last season.......... but again for me he isnt a wide man........

Craney............ Seriously im not sure what position he is even supposed to be playing, but yet again for me last night he was VERY POOR, is he even fit?!?!?!?! If he isnt, then why play him?!? Obviously we are struggling for alternatives at the moment but surely that doesnt mean he HAS to play?!?!

As for Kurtis up front, yes he missed a couple of good chances, but I think he is doing a great job considering the circumstances. Only his 2nd ever pro-game....... but make no mistake, HE NEEDS help up there....... If this is what Craney is supposed to do then why isnt he doing it??!

A striker and a couple of wide men needed for me before the end of the month and the close of the transfer window.

The big test for me is Saturday.

Bring it on.

Revived Red · 10-08-2011, 18:53

I agree with everything that Smudgie has said. I was pleased by the first half performance. Craney was simply awful - young Taylor should have been brought on much earlier to replace him.

Kevin McIntyre was left with an impossible task with no-one dropping back to help. It was a sign that we had simply run out of steam.

I thought Luke Joyce was absolutely immense, and I like the centre back pairing. As someone wrote in a previous thread, Phil who? I also think Kurtis Guthrie will be a real handful very soon.

cashman · 10-08-2011, 20:26

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Originally Posted by Revived Red

I agree with everything that Smudgie has said. I was pleased by the first half performance. Craney was simply awful - young Taylor should have been brought on much earlier to replace him.

Kevin McIntyre was left with an impossible task with no-one dropping back to help. It was a sign that we had simply run out of steam.

I thought Luke Joyce was absolutely immense, and I like the centre back pairing. As someone wrote in a previous thread, Phil who? I also think Kurtis Guthrie will be a real handful very soon.

Thought Joyce deserved his MoM.

AccyAggro · 10-08-2011, 20:30

Aside from the players performance, i was disapointed with the crowd turnout. Main stand only just looked half full, clayton end far from full... and this will have been most peoples first chance of seeing stanley this term after a successful last season