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08-02-2015, 17:41
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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I'm not blaming beattie, I was making a fact based point.
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Fact we have lost two games due to the errors of Conneeley !!!
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08-02-2015, 17:46
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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That's my point Cashy,head up and square it.
It's one of the first academy principles,look,take a picture and make the right decision.
Going back to young carver,I understand why we are still running with McGuire,he is a forward (not point tho),he scored 14 from 29 starts for Waterford (which got him noticed by west ham),so it's in his locker.
He's a under 21 international so the potential is there,he's just not brought it to the table for us.
I don't know why,sometimes it just doesn't happen,but a couple of goals/wins may change that.
Saying that he was out of sorts again yesterday when he came on and made some poor decisions (not the only one !!! )
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So on those points Gray should be playing,top goal scorer under 21 international and far more experience than McGuire
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08-02-2015, 18:23
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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So on those points Gray should be playing,top goal scorer under 21 international and far more experience than McGuire
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But with serious issues with his balance
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08-02-2015, 18:28
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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So on those points Gray should be playing,top goal scorer under 21 international and far more experience than McGuire
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Different players,grey couldn't play behind the front man.
I like Grey,and he's technically as good as gornell,but he goes to ground too easily,which usually causes us to turn over possession.
If he changes his style a little,he would be a far better player.
He's very good in the air,which sometimes goes un-noticed
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08-02-2015, 18:41
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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Originally Posted by football19
Different players,grey couldn't play behind the front man.
I like Grey,and he's technically as good as gornell,but he goes to ground too easily,which usually causes us to turn over possession.
If he changes his style a little
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Everyone i know can see that fact my friend, its the fact hes a young lad, but WHY oh WHY has it NOT been coached out of him? whilst we know some players are a bit thick, Stay on yer feet, a clown could understand i'm sure.
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Last edited by cashman; 08-02-2015 at 18:45.
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08-02-2015, 18:47
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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Everyone i know can see that fact my friend, its the fact hes a young lad, but WHY oh WHY has it NOT been coached out of him? whilst we know some players are a bit thick, Stay on yer feet, a clown could understand i'm sure.
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Your far more diplomatic than me Cashy
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08-02-2015, 19:01
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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He didn't get a chance under beattie either.
Mainly because he isn't good enough on the limited evidence so far.
Further proven by the lack of league or conference clubs who have come in for him
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Let's put the record straight here Dav0 without distortion of the facts. Beattie did give young Carver a chance cos it was him that awarded the lad his present 12 month contract last summer. So a former prem and England striker felt he should stick with him, whilst the former non league striker now in charge virtually ignored him and in fact brought in loanees who then played out of position up front.
As for Carver showing nothing, I seem to remember it was his performance that got us through the tie with Notts County only to be dropped for the next game v Cambridge to make way for Crooks
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08-02-2015, 19:26
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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Beattie did give young Carver a chance cos it was him that awarded the lad his present 12 month contract last summer.
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But was James Beattie in posession of his UEFA coaching badges at the time? This could be why the football genius doesn't rate young Carver, because he has the badges and knows best.
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08-02-2015, 19:37
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
You seem to have the football genius sussed, Yerself, but I couldn't possibly comment
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09-02-2015, 00:22
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
Although Marcus has gone out on loan with Barrow,Marcus is still training with stanley has Barrow are part timers.So Marcus still has time to impress and force his way back into JC's plans well lets hope so anyway.....
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09-02-2015, 08:16
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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Although Marcus has gone out on loan with Barrow,Marcus is still training with stanley has Barrow are part timers.So Marcus still has time to impress and force his way back into JC's plans well lets hope so anyway.....
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In my opinion Marcus has more chance of being struck by lightening.
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09-02-2015, 09:17
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
You are in dreamland Mab unfortunately.
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09-02-2015, 11:08
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
[QUOTE=mab;1132641....Marcus still has time to impress and force his way back into JC's plans well lets hope so anyway.....[/QUOTE]
How can that happen, Mab, when there a specific 'no-recall' clause in Mr.Carver's loan to Barrow to the end of this season?
I can only hope Marcus wanted the move because, along with Mr.Hatfield, I otherwise think he's been treated somewhat shabbily.
Good luck to both of them, except when they up against Stanley!
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09-02-2015, 11:44
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St
How can that happen, Mab, when there a specific 'no-recall' clause in Mr.Carver's loan to Barrow to the end of this season?
I can only hope Marcus wanted the move because, along with Mr.Hatfield, I otherwise think he's been treated somewhat shabbily.
Good luck to both of them, except when they up against Stanley!
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Well neither were born on the Mersey.
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09-02-2015, 12:40
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Re: Marcus Carver, then.....
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Well neither were born on the Mersey.
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Nor have they played for Sligo!
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