Molly joins Crewe - Page 2

SamF · 26-06-2013, 10:55

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Originally Posted by winstanley asfc

Don't tell me.."He wasn't under contract as such so we didn't get anything for him".

How come when our "better" players move to "bigger" clubs we don't get paid?

You've got to think of it from the players point of view.

Most players who come to Stanley want to use it as a shop window.

They aren't offered long contracts because we can't afford the risk and the good ones won't want a long contract because they know it'll restrict where they move to after Stanley to someone who is willing to pay a fee. The more a club spends on a transfer fee the less they have to splash on wages...

Whalley Red · 26-06-2013, 11:20

Interesting to read that Moly's move to Crewe was in the balance this morning, because of his insistence that he wanted no longer than a 1-year contract.

12 months from now: no payback to his Club with a transfer fee earned & more money for the player when he moves with a no transfer paid.

Crewe Alex: Swoop for Lee Molyneux hangs in the balance - Crewe Chronicle

cashman · 26-06-2013, 12:21

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Originally Posted by Whalley Red

Interesting to read that Moly's move to Crewe was in the balance this morning, because of his insistence that he wanted no longer than a 1-year contract.

12 months from now: no payback to his Club with a transfer fee earned & more money for the player when he moves with a no transfer paid.

Crewe Alex: Swoop for Lee Molyneux hangs in the balance - Crewe Chronicle

Good Player - No Doubt, Bad Attitude- No Doubt,

maccawozzagod · 26-06-2013, 14:36

I think he perhaps has delusions of grandeur then if he thinks that he will definitely be on the move next summer. I'd have thought that most lower league footballers would be grateful for a 2 year contract and security?

He was fantastic towards the end of the season - no-one can doubt that, but the 30 games prior to that ...

Chimer · 26-06-2013, 14:38

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Originally Posted by cashman

Good Player - No Doubt, Bad Attitude- No Doubt,

But how good? This suggests he thinks he's too good for the Alex long term. not quite sure he proved that last season.

I'm sure we'd give him a one-year contract no problem!

SamF · 26-06-2013, 15:49

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

I think he perhaps has delusions of grandeur then if he thinks that he will definitely be on the move next summer.

Think so - his goals were vital for us don't get me wrong but I remember with a couple of the goals thinking a better quality keeper would have got to them.

Too good for us but for me can't see him past League 1 at his peak

ianray · 26-06-2013, 17:47

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Originally Posted by SamF

Think so - his goals were vital for us don't get me wrong but I remember with a couple of the goals thinking a better quality keeper would have got to them.

Too good for us but for me can't see him past League 1 at his peak

TOO GOOD FOR ASFC NEVER . he along with other ex players want to thank their lucky stars ASFC gave them a chance when they needed it . I remember a few of our subscibers talking about a FOOTBALL GENIUS manager he was even called GOD hes still looking for a job no doubt some club will take him and his mate on one day

Whalley Red · 26-06-2013, 18:20

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Originally Posted by ianray

TOO GOOD FOR ASFC NEVER . he along with other ex players want to thank their lucky stars ASFC gave them a chance when they needed it .

Moly more than others.

Remember when he started playing for us, he was still wearing a tag after being released from prison - three years for violent assault - and couldn't play in evening games because he was still on curfew

No other Club gave him a chance to resurrect his career!

cashman · 26-06-2013, 18:23

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Originally Posted by Whalley Red

Moly more than others.

Remember when he started playing for us, he was still wearing a tag after being released from prison - three years for violent assault - and couldn't play in evening games because he was still on curfew

No other Club gave him a chance to resurrect his career!

The reason i said Bad Attiude- No Doubt.

Exile on Spencer St · 26-06-2013, 19:23

Agree with much of what has been said above; I thought Mr Molyneux was of doubtful quality early on but he proved me wrong once it was realised he wasn't a defensive left back.
However, it could be his 'agent' demanding a one year contract so he can extract another fee in 12 months. Given a choice between his client and himself, I wonder whose financial interests would come first with some 'agents'?

DAV007 · 26-06-2013, 20:49

Molly is a footballer in the lower leagues who is only 1 injury away from ending his career.
He has every right to maximise his options.

If Crewe aren't willing to give him a 1 year deal, then they will have to find an equally talented left sided player of Mollys quality on a free transfer.
They wont.

Jeg Red · 26-06-2013, 21:57

Moly needs to be careful that he doesn't come out of this looking like he's not keeping his feet on the ground.

A year ago, he'd just come out of prison and Stanley have him a chance, so the 12 month contract suited both parties. I always thought he had the quality, although it took some time for him to show it consistently and the 2 goals at Rochdale were the turning point for him.

He's relishing his second chance and has a baby due soon, so given his situation, you'd think he'd jump at the security of a 2 year deal with Crewe. If he shows potential to play at a higher level than League 1, someone will come in for him and pay a fee, so he should have a deal of faith in his own ability if that's what he's after.

Don't under estimate the role of the agent here and his motivation for providing the advice he appears to be providing

cashman · 26-06-2013, 22:07

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Molly is a footballer in the lower leagues who is only 1 injury away from ending his career.
He has every right to maximise his options.

I would argue he was only 1 Step away from the scrap heap, wi a tag on his leg n nobody would give him a chance only Stanley,

smobile · 27-06-2013, 06:54

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Originally Posted by SamF

Think so - his goals were vital for us don't get me wrong but I remember with a couple of the goals thinking a better quality keeper would have got to them.

Too good for us but for me can't see him past League 1 at his peak

I was raving about him to a few Plymouth fans at work last season and they all said that when they had him in the Championship, he looked out of his depth.

Good player, and grateful to him for contributing the goals that kept us our league status, but should have rewarded us with another year for giving him a chance when everyone else had turned their backs on him.

That's Modern Football and Modern Players for you though.

DAV007 · 27-06-2013, 08:29

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Originally Posted by cashman

I would argue he was only 1 Step away from the scrap heap, wi a tag on his leg n nobody would give him a chance only Stanley,

This is also true