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27-03-2012, 17:08
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Re: Negativity
as Disraeli once said "there are lies, damned lies and statistics"
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27-03-2012, 17:15
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Re: Negativity
average crowd 2001/02 (league only) 529
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27-03-2012, 17:26
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Re: Negativity
Well gentlemen this thread has caused a stir! For what its worth, my opinion is that the managers job is partly about managing expectations. The fans, the media, the directors and probably most important the players. We all know mind games are used in football stick with the man. I for one am going to give him a good chance to achieve success. It will be a long and winding road, hopefully with some success along the way. But the club has to develope on and off the field. Don't raise the bar too high or you will always fail, maybe he is taking pressure off the players and hopes to get the best out of them in that way. Can't wait for tonight. Not much chance on paper, but who plays on paper. Up the Stanley..................
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27-03-2012, 17:29
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Re: Negativity
Threads gone from financial, to promotion and now cooky being given time for his job.
Worlds gone mad
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27-03-2012, 17:39
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Re: Negativity
My opinion is polar opposite from the opening post; from what I've seen Paul Cook seems to bring a great positivity to the club. His tactics have been ambitious, interviews constructive and attitude a breath of fresh air.
I have put absolutely no importance on Cook's lack of mention of the play offs. I think Crown Grounder sums it up with the phrase 'managing expectations'. After losing big players at the start of his reign, much of his role has been to steady the ship. His focus has had to be elsewhere. The fact that he has approached this with such open football oozes positivity, in my opinion anyway.
Funny old game!
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27-03-2012, 17:58
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Re: Negativity
If we are just focusing on pre/post match interviews, I'm in the same boat as ATC and Cashy (imagine that, it'd probably end up ran aground).
What you see as positivity, I see as hot air. What I see as realism, you see as negativity. It's down to the individual person and how they take it. There's no right or wrong here. You can't please all of the people all of the time.
I've ran out of cleches now. Oh wait, keep the faith.
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27-03-2012, 18:00
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Re: Negativity
Very well said, Shaker!
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27-03-2012, 18:05
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Re: Negativity
Has anyone else noticed that when the BBC football website previews our games the "Views from the dressing room" are ALWAYS manager views from our opponent's dressing room, not ours. I know our dressing rooms are crap but still.........!
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27-03-2012, 19:50
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Re: Negativity
I am sure all managers know the need to put themselves across positively. To quote 1 Corinthians 14:8 "For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?"
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27-03-2012, 20:52
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Re: Negativity
Job chapter 5 verse 7 - a man is borne unto trouble as surely as sparks fly up from the fire
It was my "Get out of Jail Free" card every time the local vicar caught me nicking his wine
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27-03-2012, 21:00
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Re: Negativity
A worthwhile exchange of views. Great stuff!
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27-03-2012, 22:30
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27-03-2012, 22:41
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Re: Negativity
Im an optimist. I hate failing to reach realistic targets (playoffs), which could have been achieved with what Coley left behind. Suppose im in denial of the taking 3 steps back approach particularly when taking that one step forward was within our grasps.
Im not for one minute questioning Cooks calibre or his work in developing the club on and off. The ship certainly needs steadying before we set sail on a voyage of success. Cook has it right: infrastructure, finances (players + staff), the community, they all need to be developed equally.
In shakermaker cliche mode:
No victory without fight, No rainbow without the rain, no love without hate.
No Stanley without Belief.
This thread seems to have derived a discussion with intellect for once on this forum. Good Stuff
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27-03-2012, 22:45
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Re: Negativity
I eat my words.
All hail king cooky. That is what i want to hear.
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27-03-2012, 22:57
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Negativity
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