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01-05-2013, 17:44
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Re: New Manager
QUOTE; I find the concept of Coley and Jimmy returning to the club strangely exciting and for all the reasons given on the other threads.
My only concern is that whilst at Rochdale they kept going back for the same old players that they'd had previously, which still puzzles me today. Whilst at Stanley they uncovered some real gems, so why didn't they do the same down the road? Added to that they let one of the best midfield players in L2 walk away from the club because of a 'clash of characters'.
here here Tin Monkey
IMHO we should be looking elswhere but if they come back so be it, plus if we end up in the same predicament at the end of next season under their charge it would be interesting to see which hymn sheet DAV007 sings from !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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01-05-2013, 17:47
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: New Manager
Doubt very much if he would change his view,if that were to occur,!! Scousers tend to stick together.
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01-05-2013, 18:06
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Re: New Manager
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Added to that they let one of the best midfield players in L2 walk away from the club because of a 'clash of characters'.
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And a couple of useful full backs in Chris King and Jon Bateson.
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01-05-2013, 18:51
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Re: New Manager
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Definition of nepotism
noun
The practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs:
Was this word invented to describe the recruitment and team selection policy of Messrs Coleman & Bell?
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What a pointless and pathetic jibe.Coley knows the Merseyside area...knows who the best Liverpool/Everton drop outs are. Why not utilize those contacts?
I personally couldn't give a rats arse where the players come from as long as we're successful. I cant for the life of me understand this Coley hatred.
Ironic that if not for the teams Coley built....many of those spitting venom towards him wouldn't know where the Crown Ground was.
As for the brilliant "no thanks" comments. Ladies and Gentlemen I give you Accyweb Debater Of The Year 2013!!!
If we drop out of the league we will NEVER come back. Indeed we would probably sink further down the pyramid.
Yet people would rather gamble on any Tom, Dick and Harry than appoint a man with a proven track record of not just keeping the club in the league but pushing onward.
Anybody who remembers the years BC (Before Coleman) would have to be raving mad to disregard Coley.
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01-05-2013, 18:53
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Re: New Manager
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And a couple of useful full backs in Chris King and Jon Bateson.
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I think the players he brought into the club more than atone for this. Still don't let facts get in the way of your agenda.
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01-05-2013, 19:35
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Re: New Manager
For me you can't look past coleman an bell, no one comes close to what they have done for this club! People do have very short memories, how people say there sad to see leam go is beyond me, he left the club 3 points above the drop an without a few last minute goals we would be relegated comfortably! John an jimmy perfomed miracles over the 13 years they gave us an are both stil young (ish) an can push us on again! Look at the players we sold an got money for from our play off season! Ryan (150.000) mcconville (80.000) gornell (15.000) cisak (15.000) that's a lot of money! I think john an jimmy will bring the exact same brand of football back that we seen that season an some of the best most attractive football av seen. We need to employ the immediately so they can build a similar squad to play attractive watchable football! An not just be happy with surviving in league 2! Cook an richardson have done nothing to make the club any better since john an jimmy left an that's a fact! I for one will be right behind them if they come back!! An whom ever they sign..
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01-05-2013, 21:15
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Re: New Manager
Referring to Coley's body language at the end of his previous tenure is a Red Herring.
Then he was musing on finding a stepping stone up after 13 years lets not forget extraordinary service in one place. OUR place.
Now he's fifteen months older and probably a few years wiser. Judging by his reaction at the whistle on Saturday last,when after an effectively dead rubber he rushed to the touchline to speak to Peter Murphy, he's lost none of his passion for this club. After his (mis)adventures at Spotland, it may be that Stanley offers him the real canvas or which to create his masterpieces. Like Gaudi, sorry Gradi at Crewe.
Fighting against the odds (and regularly triumphing) must have its attractions.
I'd be utterly delighted to welcome him and Jimmy back. Though based on what others have said, James Beattie seems to have demonstrated humongous commitment to the club over recent weeks. Certainly feel I missed out on his speech on Sunday, judging from comments.
Either way pretty sad Leam has gone. The boy did good. Nothing surprises me in football management anymore.................
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01-05-2013, 21:43
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Re: New Manager
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I think the players he brought into the club more than atone for this. Still don't let facts get in the way of your agenda.
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What on earth are you on about? I don't have any agenda. I was merely quoting the names of two other good players that we lost because of "clash of character". Fact.
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01-05-2013, 21:50
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Re: New Manager
At the end of the day the jury will be split on the return of J&J and to coin a phrase I don,t give a rats arse who is the next manager as long as they do the best for my club, we can throw this about all day long and try to second guess the outcome but the board will decide on the best canidate so there aint no point falling out about it.
My only concern regarding the dynamic duo is if they were to be appointed and it all went wrong which would,nt be good for the club J&J or the fans would the 12 years of success count for nothing as we all know football is a very fickle business to be in.
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01-05-2013, 21:59
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Re: New Manager
The 12 years of those 2 will always be remembered by me,thats certain. n i'm one that wants new blood.
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02-05-2013, 00:08
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Re: New Manager
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The 12 years of those 2 will always be remembered by me,thats certain. n i'm one that wants new blood.
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ah yes, the Unibond Prem winning season and the Conf winning season. Good times indeed, I'll see your two years and raise you by the Unibond 1st Division winning year and the 2 1/2 promotion push years as well
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02-05-2013, 00:44
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Re: New Manager
I said when they left for Rochdale that they'd be back with their tails between their legs within 18 months. "The grass isn't always greener"they often quoted when referring to players who stepped up a division. Now that they've practised what they preached about they might be changed men? I'd like to see them back in charge, but if not then give Beattie(if he's interested?) a go.
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02-05-2013, 18:22
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Re: New Manager
Some great posts , but I am with shaker on this,coley for me just makes sense,
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02-05-2013, 19:16
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Re: New Manager
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ah yes, the Unibond Prem winning season and the Conf winning season. Good times indeed, I'll see your two years and raise you by the Unibond 1st Division winning year and the 2 1/2 promotion push years as well
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Not to mention that one of those promotion push years coincided with the treble. It speaks volumes that that season is largely forgotten.
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02-05-2013, 20:41
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Re: New Manager
Seem to remember that the delay to recruitment plans caused by the playoffs a few years ago caused us major problems for the start of the following season. Can we now afford delays if we defer the choice of new manager till June? To me anyone other than Coleman and Bell are an unknown quantity to this club. Remember the number of managers we went through before they arrived and the number since. We enjoyed success under them that we have not known since or (except for Galbraith) before.
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