Newport County Match Thread! - Page 2

KiTChener · 29-10-2016, 17:35

I have written my comments on today's game, but I will refrain from posting them until tomorrow, as I am so disgusted tonight that I feel I should 'sleep on it', as I do not wish to cause offence!

Lord Stiffupperlip · 29-10-2016, 17:42

Embarrassing performance.
It wasn't so much the fact we were beaten, but the manner of the defeat. Newport made Stanley look very ordinary & deserved their victory.
I am more concerned by the lack of any real improvement in the squad. Stanley have some consistently good players and some who are consistently poor, yet we field the same team week in week out and it doesn't take a football genius to know where our weakness lies.
We may hate Westley, but he did a right professional job on us today. Unlike Stanley, who seem to be stagnating, Newport are definitely improving.
The management must shoulder much of the blame for todays inept performance.

cashman · 29-10-2016, 17:50

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Originally Posted by AccyStan1962

Chrisr, had the management taken the club too far last season also? We're still 9th in the league with the smallest budget maybe you should just think about that for a moment. Yes today weren't great but to want the manager sacked is actually embarrassing

Think about this for a moment. playing 1 up front against a side that had only won 1 game this season and we were at home, that is rank poor management in my view. budgets etc have sod all to do with that fact, and the man up front played like he couldn't score in a brothel, and do you think thats good?

DaveinGermany · 29-10-2016, 17:56

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Originally Posted by cashman

he couldn't score in a brothel, and do you think thats good?

Well, that depends on the quality of the brothel!

Seriously though, from all accounts today was an exceptionally bad day at the office.

andyd · 29-10-2016, 18:07

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Originally Posted by cashman

Think about this for a moment. playing 1 up front against a side that had only won 1 game this season and we were at home, that is rank poor management in my view. budgets etc have sod all to do with that fact, and the man up front played like he couldn't score in a brothel, and do you think thats good?

Got to agree with you Cashy big squad Coleman keep,s saying they will all have a part to play when?, to keep playing with one upfront at home is starting to pee a lot of long term fans off bar packed at half time people saying they might go home than endure that we have,nt played well at home for awhile now including back end off last season Coleman say,s he wants more through the turnstiles change something then for God sake today was totally dreadful and for all we think about Westley he never stopped geeing his team up I was sat yards from him in contrast to our woeful lack of encouragement from our bench need to turn it round quickly at home or the crowds will dwindle and Mr Holt will have something to think about.

smudgie · 29-10-2016, 18:18

VERY poor indeed. As others have said, he keeps talking about the squad as being the best he has ever assembled but why won't he use it???

Truly dreadful and outplayed by the League's bottom club for 80+ minutes. Not one player from the starting XI deserves any credit whatsoever after that shambles. Thought Donancien and Beckles where the best of a bad bunch, along with maybe GTF who showed some decent touches.

As for the rest, absolute shambles. Golden Boy back to his old self, WHY is he taking every free kick and corner!??! He didn't once go into a tackle full blooded apart from the in the final minute. Will it make a difference?? Nope, no doubt he will probably be captain next week.

3 tough away games in 7 days to come, maybe it's a blessing in disguise after that showing today.

Lord Didsbury · 29-10-2016, 19:40

No Coleman for the interview. Instead Jimmy was sent. A bit too much blame of the players for my liking, but at least he acknowledged that it's for them to sort out.https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=VNaDN8v1qUE

football19 · 29-10-2016, 19:44

Didn't see that coming,we never got out of first gear all over the pitch.
They had a simple game plan and Tozzer just screened their CBs all game,which took Terry out the game.
For me Rigg run the game for them and was surprised by their movement.
They were solid and disciplined,but Acci at 70% would have destroyed them.
It's surprising how many teams are struggling at home and are getting picked off.
Missing Kees hold up play,as our system relies on this.
Was a poor day at the office,but maybe the kick we need to get us on a winning run

Chewbacca · 29-10-2016, 20:16

Seems a theme in 2016, struggling against **** teams at home.

KiTChener · 29-10-2016, 20:24

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Originally Posted by KiTChener

I have written my comments on today's game, but I will refrain from posting them until tomorrow, as I am so disgusted tonight that I feel I should 'sleep on it', as I do not wish to cause offence!

Well, it seems my previous comments have been lost in the ether!
But, having seen other posters, with whom I totally agree, I suppose I had better give my thoughts.

After over 16yrs as a season ticket holder, I did something today that I have not done before..... leave the ground 20 mins before the end!!

We were absolutely dire in the first half, I considered staying in the bar with a few like minded souls... may as well get p155ed as go out again!

Things did not improve in the second half, despite my reappearance, & no doubt a 'hair dryer' from Coley!

Football is supposed to be an 'entertainment' industry... at least that was the argument from the great Jimmy Hill, when, donkeys years ago, he managed to improve players wages by some considerable amounts!

I get more entertainment from watching my 8yr old grandson play for his school team, even though they may be rubbish! At least they enjoy what they are doing & try their hardest to get the ball!

And this is what I think may be part of the problem in professional football...
the players are too bound up in playing to the manager's system, & frightened of deviating from it, & not enjoying their game... this has been prevalent in the senior leagues for some time, which is what drew me to Stanley so many years ago.... unfortunately, we seem to be heading in the same direction!

Please, John & Jimmy, you are in possession of a great squad, let them play to their best, I can honestly say that, over the last few (home) games, I have yet to see players who enjoy their game as much as they did when they played for the under nines!

Saying that, I have got to say that Mr Westley, after so many years, knew exactly how to play us & win,,, all credit to the way he set up his team & exploited our weaknesses....
although I will still never forgive him for trying to trip up Andy Mangam, after his goal celebrations took him within striking distance of Westley's foot!!

Sorry for the rant, maybe I should have left it until tomorrow to post!

Exile on Spencer St · 29-10-2016, 21:06

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Originally Posted by football19

Missing Kee's hold up play,as our system relies on this.

From other's comments, maybe you've summed up the problem, F19. Stanley have been relying on Billy Kee's ability to hold up the ball for some time. But he's been missing for several matches now. However, 'the system' doesn't change.
Bit like having a car that runs perfectly on petrol then, when you suddenly can't find any, you put in diesel. And guess what...?

Chrisr · 29-10-2016, 21:56

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Originally Posted by AccyStan1962

Chrisr, had the management taken the club too far last season also? We're still 9th in the league with the smallest budget maybe you should just think about that for a moment. Yes today weren't great but to want the manager sacked is actually embarrassing

I think your loyalty is admirable. However the facts are staring us all in the face we are easy to suss out, We can't play in the air, we can't seem to string two passes together. Yet we have quality players doing nothing, earlier in the posts people were asking what has happened to Chris Eagles I would also ask about others as well. I have watched games that Chris Eagles would have been a great asset as a playmaker. We continue to play the one striker up front which is a terrible job for anybody, today had a 3-5-2 formation written all over it. one up front means a 10 man defence which sends out the wrong message.
As for last season, That unforgivable decision against us at Wimbledon seemed to finish us off. when your manager can't lift your players to win one and draw on from 5 on the superb form we were showing the cracks were showing. The Stevenage game sealed it for me, All we had to do was score and we were up but we didn't and we all know the rest. To say we have the smallest budget in the league is a little exaggerated as we have a big squad which seems to be unused. Jimmy Bell recognised how easy we were to beat and how easy we give the ball away and can't seem to change formation.
The time has come to have a look at what the management are doing and have they taken the club as far as they can. I am not a Coley hater. I judge people on the results and performance, This season we had a massive influx of new players and the worst pre-season ever. The quality of opposition was poor. It is a tragedy that after the investment Andy Holt is putting in the team are letting everyone down, I know the Buck stops with John and Jimmy and they will do their utmost to turn things around. The attendances are dropping again the atmosphere is downbeat and we desperately need to revive our fortunes with a few wins immediately. Yes we are 9th in the league today but by the end of November we could be 5th or 20th we are that unreliable. That suggests there is something seriously wrong behind the scenes. If we have high quality players who have played at higher levels then we should be playing them week in week out until we are back on top of things. I have to say Matty pearson a player we all admire had a woeful day today, One or two players being off I can accept but the amount of players having an off day today was unacceptable and sends warning messages out. At times they were like 11 Strangers who were picked from the stand. I know that sounds harsh but just listen to the crowd. we need to have a full and frank review of where we are and what the plan is. I am not advocating we sack the manager tomorrow or anything as drastic as that but we need to monitor the progress.

Lord Didsbury · 29-10-2016, 22:58

The mood is too negative. It was a poor performance today, and clearly there's some problems to sort, but that is all.

We all think we know more than Coleman but we don't. think about being the manager when Piero, Halliday, fosu, crooks, windass and Davies all ****** off. He's built a great defence from almost nowt and organised them very quickly. Who amongst us would have brought in Beckles under the noses of all the other div 2 clubs? There are other good players there as we've seen from occasional glimpses - so whilst there's weaknesses in certain areas I think we should acknowledge Coleman has bought/borrowed well enough.

That there are 20+ other managers who are also struggling to find consistency and turn their teams into potential champions (often with better resources) shows just how difficult it is to get all ducks in a row. Players and systems that may ultimately fail need some persisting with - even at the expense of a rocky patch.

Then there is Coleman's record. How many times has he managed to break through to the next level? He can't do it every season but he seems to get there in the end.

Finally, we are a third of the way into the season. Thirty one games to go. We are two points off the playoffs.

A degree of patience is called for.

Revived Red · 29-10-2016, 23:10

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Originally Posted by AccyStan1962

with the smallest budget

Is that still correct? Even ignoring the money spent on infrastructure improvements, the size of the squad suggests it is no longer true.

And as others have said, why have such a large squad when so many are unused?

Like most other people, I dislike Westley intensely. But he and his associates did a good job for Newport today.

As for McConville, a series of wasted set pieces, tackles shirked, headers uncontested.

Revived Red · 29-10-2016, 23:19

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Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury

A degree of patience is called for.

I beg to differ. We are making very average teams look good. It's not only Newport today but also Mansfield, Barnet etc etc.

It is simply not right that McConville starts week in, week out. It is simply not right that our manager and his assistant stand by, seemingly inert, whilst the opposition manager visibly advises, harries, encourages throughout the game.

For me, a day and £100 wasted. If we lose and play ok, I can accept that. I cannot accept a performance like today's.

Please do not ask me to be patient.