Newport County Match Thread!

[cashman]

A damn good summary choirboy, though we stand in different sections of the clayton end, everyone around us had come to the same conclusion. but dont go too far or yeh will get blanked like me @ Malcolm the Mole, its a perogative of people but very childish in my view. Things i fear though will not improve that much unless the management change the tactics.

[Exile on Spencer St]

I think it would be a start if there was at least more than the one 'system', certainly for home games.

Here's an interesting quote taken from last Saturday's I newspaper:
...substitutions continue to baffle. He only ever tinkers with personnel, rarely the system. The faces change but not the way we play. We are far too predictable. Other teams have worked us out and know what they have to do to nullify us."

Sound familiar? It was from a Pompey fan writing about the Snake.

[Lord Stiffupperlip]

I vote Choirboy as our next manager!
As an old codger, I'm old enough to remember back when nowt but a lad, football had only one system
1 goalkeeper, 2 defenders, 3 half backs & 5 forwards!
Oh for the days when Gary Roberts sped down the wing at the speed of light to place an inch perfect cross onto Paul Mullins bald head! 1-0 'SIMPLES!

[Exile on Spencer St]

Looking at the photo gallery on the Fishy site confirms something that has crossed my mind. How about playing Donacien, big, strong, skilful and brave, in the attacking midfield role? We need some of the thrust that Mr.Crooks, once his most effective position had been found, provided last season. Just a thought.

[Lord Didsbury]

Exile - sounds like a good idea to me

Choirboy - if only it were so simple everyone would be speeding down wings, putting crosses in from the bye line etc etc. Personally, I think it just takes more movement from our players and snappier passing. I think we have the players to do it (although Vyner's passing looks poor to me). We demonstrate this when we fall a goal behind often, our sense of urgency increases and Boco is on the pitch rather someone less mobile like Terry G.

Again, easier said than done.

[DAV007]

The players were great vs Crawley and poor vs Newport.

I'm certain John Coleman will be drilling them in training that the performance and result was unacceptable and if they want to be the next Josh Windass or Matty Crooks then they need to start performing regularly to a high level for Accrington.

We go again

[Lord Stiffupperlip]

Lord D, I beg to differ.
I am regularly amazed by the 'system' which sees 20 outfield players all packed into one side of the field, following the ball like schoolboys, whilst the other half is virtually empty.
McConville gets plenty of stick, but there have been numerous occasions when he stands ignored in acres of space, while nobody has the nous to make that killer pass.
The reason 'wingers' are out of favour goes back to the 60's-70's when fashionable managers decided that the first priority was not to get beat! Hence your 'flat back fours', your 5-3-2-1 formations etc.
What is simpler? Taking 10-15 passes, often sideways & backwards before you get from your goal to theirs, or 1 simple pass to a fast skilful winger who can make rapid progress.
Leicester won the Premiership with a bargain basement squad by adopting a fast simple game. They didn't spend all day passing about at the back, but hit teams on the break with one or two fast players, often down the wing.
As many have said previously, football is in the entertainment business. What fans want to see are goals, not a battle of attrition between 'systems' designed to nullify the opposition. I'd rather see Stanley win 5-4, than 1-0.
At the moment we're thankful for a draw.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by DAV007

The players were great vs Crawley and poor vs Newport.

I'm certain John Coleman will be drilling them in training that the performance and result was unacceptable and if they want to be the next Josh Windass or Matty Crooks then they need to start performing regularly to a high level for Accrington.

We go again

Yeh can train from now till the cows come home Dav, if yer instructed to play a system that aint suitable, and the rest of the league is well aware of, then the chances of performing well regularly aint the best, surely even you can suss that one out.last season we had different players

[Revived Red]

All this talk of wingers and what they can do is making me quite nostalgic. We used to have a winger who did all the things we want - I wonder if anyone remembers him. He was called Piero Mingoia.

We currently have a right winger who can beat his full back on the outside, but then insists on cutting inside, then back to the outside - and then he tends to lose the ball. And we have a left winger who, er, well who wears a number 11 shirt.

[football19]

Don't think there's nothing wrong with system,but it is more effective when counter.
attacking
Couple of things that did jump out on Saturday was the reluctance of our two holding players to spring forward (crooked excelled at this) and the lad playing off terry struggled to find space and link play (windass was excellent at this)
Add piero,Halliday to these and maybe we've lost a bit of pace which we had last year.
At home we could try just one holding player and go 4-1-4-1 worth a try

[cashman]

Originally Posted by football19

Don't think there's nothing wrong with system,but it is more effective when counter.
attacking
Couple of things that did jump out on Saturday was the reluctance of our two holding players to spring forward (crooked excelled at this) and the lad playing off terry struggled to find space and link play (windass was excellent at this)
Add piero,Halliday to these and maybe we've lost a bit of pace which we had last year.
At home we could try just one holding player and go 4-1-4-1 worth a try

With the players we now got, that system to me is useless especially at home.how many games at home this season have we looked like a damn good side?

[choirboy]

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury

Choirboy - if only it were so simple everyone would be speeding down wings, putting crosses in from the bye line etc etc. Personally, I think it just takes more movement from our players and snappier passing. I think we have the players to do it (although Vyner's passing looks poor to me). We demonstrate this when we fall a goal behind often, our sense of urgency increases and Boco is on the pitch rather someone less mobile like Terry G.

Again, easier said than done.

I didn't suggest that it would be easy to include this in our play but that we never try to include it in our play. It would need a good supply from passes from the back and through midfield but then a commitment by wingers with the skill to beat a defender or two to give it a try occasionally. I too would rather see us win or draw a game with 4, 5 or 6 goals scored than a one goal win or a dull scoreless draw resulting from a war of attrition!

[Twenty Eight]

Jordan Clark was signed on the basis of games behind closed doors for certain other clubs. Guess where he played ? Wide left. Guess who put one in the top corner for Bury in a pre season friendly against Accrington when cutting in from the left ? Jordan Clark.
Coley has shown massive faith in Sean but I have to say having watched you home and away most of the season I'm surprised.
Also away performances have been far better than home. That I think is down to the system which works ok away - but at home ?
Two up top at home has to be the answer with good delivery from the wings.

[keep the faith]

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight

Jordan Clark was signed on the basis of games behind closed doors for certain other clubs. Guess where he played ? Wide left. Guess who put one in the top corner for Bury in a pre season friendly against Accrington when cutting in from the left ? Jordan Clark.
Coley has shown massive faith in Sean but I have to say having watched you home and away most of the season I'm surprised.
Also away performances have been far better than home. That I think is down to the system which works ok away - but at home ?
Two up top at home has to be the answer with good delivery from the wings.

Not a bad idea but which two????

[cashman]

Originally Posted by keep the faith

Not a bad idea but which two????

I would suggest Boco @ Kee if fit, McCarten if not, woulda tried Hazeldine, but theve shut him.