Open Forum Event - Page 10

lancsdave · 25-01-2011, 18:29

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but what can your Club do for you!

What ?

Pendle Red · 25-01-2011, 18:52

Dave engage me in this

I come in Giftprint tomorrow I want five polo shirts

Do you just look to sell the five polo shirts or do you engage in the fact that I may perhaps work for someone who buys these things regulary and perhaps more beside?

What I mean as a business you look to tailor to the customers needs.

lancsdave · 25-01-2011, 19:09

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Originally Posted by Pendle Red

Dave engage me in this

I come in Giftprint tomorrow I want five polo shirts

Do you just look to sell the five polo shirts or do you engage in the fact that I may perhaps work for someone who buys these things regulary and perhaps more beside?

What I mean as a business you look to tailor to the customers needs.

I know what you mean BUT, lets forget the sound bytes and get straight to the point, both need each other, the town (SHOULD) benefit from having a football league club BIGGER BUT the club needs the local community and businesses to fund it's survival. As both Pete, Mel, Yourself and many others have pointed out, you can't keep taking peoples money without giving something back. The problem for years has been the giving back is usually something from the back end of a bull. something has to give and the club has to be the giver to regain the trust. Which takes us round the ever bigger circle, nobody will beleive a word until the ownership changes.

lancsdave · 25-01-2011, 19:18

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Originally Posted by Pendle Red

Can we as fans influence what goes on at the top?

Is there a way for us as fans to emphasise and support those points?

Something Jimmy or John said at the forum made me wonder. I think it was Jimmy that said they didn't know of any bitterness from the fans following the SOS appeal.

Does this mean Accyweb is not representative of the fans ? Some people we speak to at the shop who are Stanley season ticket holders don't have a good word to say about what happened then and is still happening, yet they aren't Accyweb members. Are they in the minority as well ?

So do people at the top really know the true feelings of fans, after all there has never been a presence to tell them otherwise, or are people who post on here really just the minority who feel things aren't right. ?

cashman · 25-01-2011, 19:31

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

Something Jimmy or John said at the forum made me wonder. I think it was Jimmy that said they didn't know of any bitterness from the fans following the SOS appeal.

Does this mean Accyweb is not representative of the fans ? Some people we speak to at the shop who are Stanley season ticket holders don't have a good word to say about what happened then and is still happening, yet they aren't Accyweb members. Are they in the minority as well ?

So do people at the top really know the true feelings of fans, after all there has never been a presence to tell them otherwise, or are people who post on here really just the minority who feel things aren't right. ?

well accyweb or none accyweb. ive yet to speak to "Anyone" wi a good word to say about the infamous 2, the SOS Appeal, or Local Business people who are happy wi em.

Shurm · 25-01-2011, 19:34

The only thing ASFC wants from any business in town is simple MONEY, they have sponged as much as they could from the people of Accrington with the SOS and now want the business money and what will they give back to the town ?? Nothing thats what and probably stick two fingers up to them once they have spent that money as well.

I'm all in agreement with supporting the team as many say but the people in charge have to go to move forward as said before.

mab · 25-01-2011, 19:39

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

nobody will beleive a word until the ownership changes.

But who owns the club?? Is it EW who has 51% of the shares who has no active part in the day to day running of the club ,or is it D O'neill Who says hes buying the shares off EW under an agreement,but has yet to rase the cash and is only at the club every now and again,or is it IK our chairman whos money along with ours saved the club from folding,difficult to know really and i guess thats why we find our selfs with this new venture by Rob Lew Martin and other stanley staff to try and hold there own in an uncertain future.IMHO

lancsdave · 25-01-2011, 19:41

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Originally Posted by mab

But who owns the club?? Is it EW who has 51% of the shares who has no active part in the day to day running of the club ,or is it D O'neill Who says hes buying the shares off EW under an agreement,but has yet to rase the cash and is only at the club every now and again,or is it IK our chairman whos money along with ours saved the club from folding,difficult to know really and i guess thats why we find our selfs with this new venture by Rob Lew Martin and other stanley staff to try and hold there own in an uncertain future.IMHO

Officially it's EW isn't it ?

mab · 25-01-2011, 19:53

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

Officially it's EW isn't it ?

If 51% means you own it then yes,but if hes not interested in the day to day running of the club and has no active part in any of the decision, which come from the board or Rob what can he do..

lancsdave · 25-01-2011, 19:57

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The only thing ASFC wants from any business in town is simple MONEY, .

To be honest that is probably all most football clubs want from local businesses. I think the only thing most of those businesses want in return is to know that their hard earned is actually being used correctly and anything the club can do for the business can be reciprocated. I'll let you figure out what I'm trying to say

lancsdave · 25-01-2011, 20:00

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Originally Posted by mab

If 51% means you own it then yes,but if hes not interested in the day to day running of the club and has no active part in any of the decision, which come from the board or Rob what can he do..

The club needs investment and expertise. If hanging on to those shares means that investment and expertise can't happen then the answer is obvious, so whats the hold up ?

mab · 25-01-2011, 20:05

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

To be honest that is probably all most football clubs want from local businesses. I think the only thing most of those businesses want in return is to know that their hard earned is actually being used correctly and anything the club can do for the business can be reciprocated. I'll let you figure out what I'm trying to say

Spot on Dave

lancsdave · 25-01-2011, 20:14

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Originally Posted by mab

Spot on Dave

Course it is but I think I'm too late for the Commercial Manager's job

mab · 25-01-2011, 20:17

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

The club needs investment and expertise. If hanging on to those shares means that investment and expertise can't happen then the answer is obvious, so whats the hold up ?

Good questin!!may be hes waiting for someone to offer cash,only Eric knows how much he wants for the shares , Getting back to "Back the Boys" this was thought up by Rob Lew Martin and JC to open up the club and try and interact with the supporters,its whats been called for by meany for a while now and lets hope theres more to come,if owt good comes of it then thats good in my book

lancsdave · 25-01-2011, 20:35

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Originally Posted by mab

or is it D O'neill Who says hes buying the shares off EW under an agreement,but has yet to rase the cash and is only at the club every now and again,

What is his role now then ?