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25-01-2011, 21:41
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Re: Open Forum Event
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What is his role now then ?
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Think hes still on the board and Managing Director,
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25-01-2011, 22:07
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Re: Open Forum Event
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Originally Posted by Pendle Red
I come in Giftprint tomorrow I want five polo shirts
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There you are, Dave, you've got an order.
PS - He wants "O'Neill and Whalley out" printing on 'em.
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25-01-2011, 22:10
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#153
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Re: Open Forum Event
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What is his role now then ?
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He's starring in "How To Win Friends And Influence People"
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25-01-2011, 22:11
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#154
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Re: Open Forum Event
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
There you are, Dave, you've got an order.
PS - He wants "O'Neill and Whalley out" printing on 'em.
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The printing will be free
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25-01-2011, 22:16
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Re: Open Forum Event
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Originally Posted by mab
If 51% means you own it then yes,but if hes not interested in the day to day running of the club and has no active part in any of the decision, which come from the board or Rob what can he do..
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So EW doesn't get any income from it? He don't have to do the day to day that's what robs there for but does bet he still has a say in what's going on with the day to day
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25-01-2011, 22:50
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Re: Open Forum Event
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Originally Posted by Stanleymad
So EW doesn't get any income from it? He don't have to do the day to day that's what robs there for but does bet he still has a say in what's going on with the day to day
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So what income do you think EW gets from the club SM, and how long do you think Rob would last if he was leting EW have a say in the day to day of the club if Ilyas thought that!! lets not foreget that its Robs chance and may be his only chance to prove to Ilyas that he is the right man in the job, and i cant see Rob wanting to jeopardize his position. IMHO
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25-01-2011, 23:21
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Re: Open Forum Event
Part of the problem with Stanley is that it’s never taken itself seriously, it been too accepting of tat and make-do policies in the past and a something will turn up attitude to the future of the club; this is an attitude that pre dates the current club and still haunts all of us today.
Nothing less than a full on engagement with the community and a substantial inward investment into its infrastructure will do if Stanley is to remain a viable asset to anyone.
We have had to very good seasons under Coley working with a minimum budget, that clearly can’t go on if supporters are staying away and the business community won’t invest in the club with the two aforementioned gentlemen insitu.
Maybe it’s time to take a different approach, maybe if some of the community’s Key Businesses with an interest in the club; along with supportive elements of the council where to form a delegation and took the message directly to the board that there is a total lack of faith in the current establishment, maybe someone may wake up.
Failing that; form another SOS campaign and buy them out
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26-01-2011, 06:08
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Re: Open Forum Event
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Something Jimmy or John said at the forum made me wonder. I think it was Jimmy that said they didn't know of any bitterness from the fans following the SOS appeal.
Does this mean Accyweb is not representative of the fans ? Some people we speak to at the shop who are Stanley season ticket holders don't have a good word to say about what happened then and is still happening, yet they aren't Accyweb members. Are they in the minority as well ?
So do people at the top really know the true feelings of fans, after all there has never been a presence to tell them otherwise, or are people who post on here really just the minority who feel things aren't right. ?
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Must admit when I asked the question I felt uneasy with the answers
I think regardless of if they read the messageboard or not they must now have understood some of the depth of feeling towards what has gone on, certainly after the forum.
There are bigger questions that we perhaps can pose but whether we get the answers to those I am not sure?
I suppose something Mab has posted makes you think we are on the outside looking in what must it be like on the inside looking out?
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26-01-2011, 06:18
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Re: Open Forum Event
Taking on some of Doug's points you can also be in a system that means you can become over streched in staffing terms and perhaps just end up fire fighting on a day to day basis?
Who would support an SOS campaign?
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26-01-2011, 07:12
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Re: Open Forum Event
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Originally Posted by Doug
Part of the problem with Stanley is that it’s never taken itself seriously, it been too accepting of tat and make-do policies in the past and a something will turn up attitude to the future of the club; this is an attitude that pre dates the current club and still haunts all of us today.
Nothing less than a full on engagement with the community and a substantial inward investment into its infrastructure will do if Stanley is to remain a viable asset to anyone.
We have had to very good seasons under Coley working with a minimum budget, that clearly can’t go on if supporters are staying away and the business community won’t invest in the club with the two aforementioned gentlemen insitu.
Maybe it’s time to take a different approach, maybe if some of the community’s Key Businesses with an interest in the club; along with supportive elements of the council where to form a delegation and took the message directly to the board that there is a total lack of faith in the current establishment, maybe someone may wake up.
Failing that; form another SOS campaign and buy them out
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Not much anybody can add to that
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26-01-2011, 13:52
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Re: Open Forum Event
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Originally Posted by Pendle Red
Who would support an SOS campaign?
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How about this for a novel idea. You give the club some money and they give you a share, bit like actually owning a stake in the club. Then if there's enough people owning these small stakes they could call it something like a community club. Bit far fetched da ya reckon ?
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26-01-2011, 14:48
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Re: Open Forum Event
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Originally Posted by lancsdave
... You give the club a bit of money and they give you a share, bit like actually owning a stake in the club. Then if there's enough people owning these small stakes they could call it something like a community club. Bit far fetched da ya reckon ?
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or try ... you could give the club a lot of money and they give you a share, bit like actually owning a stake in the club - except that it isn't cos your share wasn't a share it was a share package which isn't actually a share cos it was never registered
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26-01-2011, 15:39
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Open Forum Event
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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod
or try ... you could give the club a lot of money and they give you a share, bit like actually owning a stake in the club - except that it isn't cos your share wasn't a share it was a share package which isn't actually a share cos it was never registered
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well i must be totally stupid, cos that to me is a Criminal Offence? Deception? or did i have a bad dream.?
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26-01-2011, 16:30
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Re: Open Forum Event
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or try ... except that it isn't cos your share wasn't a share it was a share package which isn't actually a share cos it was never registered
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Is that what happened with the (in)famous share issue that DonGon pulled eighteen months ago?
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26-01-2011, 17:34
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Re: Open Forum Event
We've all been fooled and continuously fooled by the cardboard owner and his twin and will always try to fool us! It's still happening all under handed of course they honestly think we're stupid. Think those that bought shares get together and pressurise them to get it registered wonder if trading standards apply to footy clubs ???
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