Our club has been saved.... - Page 2

Tin Monkey · 08-11-2009, 21:42

A massive relief for now, but am I the only one still concerned?

cashman · 08-11-2009, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

A massive relief for now, but am I the only one still concerned?

Dunno T.M. the relief is sure great, but my concern is well diminished, a little club could not be in any worse crap than it was, n have great faith in I.K. n P.M. to steer em right.

expatriate · 08-11-2009, 22:13

TM - what are you concerned about ? Please share, and I hope I can help. At least you might help me see something I am missing !!

I am concerned, but not about the survival of our club. However, as i have stated before, i see ASFC as a true community club, and as such your concerns ought to be my concerns. I will almost certainly make mistakes, but if you (and others) can help by keeping me very firmly grounded, then I hope the mistakes can be diminished.

so, if there is something specific, please please say so. PM me if you wish, or email me on [email protected] (and that email is available to all fans and supporters).

Ilyas

david1 · 08-11-2009, 22:16

I shook hands with Mr Khan , he is a diamond . I can't see him let the club fail to the last breath !!!

MichiganRed · 08-11-2009, 22:59

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Originally Posted by expatriate

TM - what are you concerned about ?

While I would never presume to speak for our resident simian, I, too, have some concerns regarding the long-term viability of our club.

Over the last few months, many references have been made to rather sizeable outstanding debts (apart from the tax bill) and we are all too keenly aware of the gate figures. Are any of these other creditors in a position to hinder the operation of the club? Will we be able to service this debt without negatively impacting the product on the pitch? What additional revenue streams are being explored to make up for the shortfall at the gate? Will the previously mentioned ground improvements be implemented?

cashman · 08-11-2009, 23:32

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Originally Posted by MichiganRed

While I would never presume to speak for our resident simian, I, too, have some concerns regarding the long-term viability of our club.

Over the last few months, many references have been made to rather sizeable outstanding debts (apart from the tax bill) and we are all too keenly aware of the gate figures. Are any of these other creditors in a position to hinder the operation of the club? Will we be able to service this debt without negatively impacting the product on the pitch?

think the question is - Will other creditors be allowed to hinder the operation? obvious to me they can.

wouldn't presume to answer fer Mr Khan, but i doubt it.

maccawozzagod · 08-11-2009, 23:35

Expat - one of your mistakes was surely getting amongst the Ultras for the D.I.S.C.O -unless you have already signed over your life insurance to the club!!!!!

I think the main concerns of the fans are that, whilst the immediate threat has been removed, we do still have debts. Because the club has so much to do in order to become a real threat at this level it is hard to see how that can physically be done whilst still trying to pay off debts. The simplest form of this is the PFA debt. We know that it will have to be paid, but will it be paid via the means we originally intended (the next FL payment)? If this is so then we are going to be under the transfer embargo until that payment is due - and this will take us past January. If the intention is to pay it via other means then can that be done sooner rather than later in order to get the goalkeeper cover in?

There are many hurdles to cross in the short term but I sincerely believe that we can double attendances within a few months - and hopefully the country emerging from economic gloom next year will further impact the rise.

I look forward to the days when we can see the home end well and truly packed out again.

cashman · 09-11-2009, 00:03

way i see it in the grand scheme of things the Ultras n other kids are the lifeblood of future growth, i.e. the most important thing, i and many other young uns in 62, beggared off to other clubs cos accy had none, many wed n took our own kids wherever, its great ilyas gets in among em, us owd farts won't last ferever.

Willie Miller · 09-11-2009, 00:07

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Originally Posted by cashman

way i see it in the grand scheme of things the Ultras n other kids are the lifeblood of future growth, i.e. the most important thing, i and many other young uns in 62, beggared off to other clubs cos accy had none, many wed n took our own kids wherever, its great ilyas gets in among em, us owd farts won't last ferever.

I agree, & I would go as far as saying "Kids Free!" even up to age 16.....

Get em young & we will keep em. Said this 5 years ago too....

Grimps · 09-11-2009, 00:57

why not do a things for kids like under 16 free rest of seanson if pay £10.00 have a months time to pay .then shunt it down . or jobless pay 8.00 if you show your jobcentre cards.££$$££$$££$$£ all = more fans

VALAIRIAN · 09-11-2009, 05:57

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

A massive relief for now, but am I the only one still concerned?

Not concerned

Wynonie Harris · 09-11-2009, 08:49

I know we've still got considerable debts to pay off and, as Saturday's gate proved, we've got a mountain to climb in terms of attracting the local public, but I'm more optimistic about Stanley's prospects than I've ever been in the last 49 years. Because, at long last, instead of flying by the seat of our pants, making it up as we go along, we've got people at the top who will plan for the future longterm in a realistic, yet ambitious way. Our future is not only secure, but very rosy indeed!

DAV007 · 09-11-2009, 10:33

As long as the club grows its community roots their wont be a problem. We still have one of the lowest entrance fees in the league and very cheap season tickets. Sometimes Blackburn and Wigan can be cheaper when the do the 10 pound a game offer, but on the whole we offer good value. I understand the psychology which argues more than 10 pounds puts off a decent percentage of people who wont pay more than 10 pounds for non top flight football. But can we afford £10 entry? I do think there is a case to be made for the bradford city 'sell aload of season tickets and they will be cheap'. Such a scheme could both mobilise the current fans and town to get behind the club.

expatriate · 09-11-2009, 10:40

i have been watching this very interesting thread. the points being raised are ones that actually confront many teams, and many businesses. The answers are not hard to identify, but they are hard to implement. The one thing I can absolutely guarantee is that decisions which will be made whilst I am involved, will be made with the interest of the club at heart, and not the interest of any one person or group of people. I also guarantee an open door to the community and the club. I have a view that it will take a number of years of consistent and concerted effort before we can win the hearts and minds of the community to the point this translates into people in the ground - but its an eminently achievable target.

One last thing, for now, I also happen to think that the onus of responsibility is on the club to attract fans, and not to complain if they choose not to turn up. In this day and age its hard to compete for that valuable two hours, but not at all impossible. Our club needs the community behind it, and we will do what it takes to ensure that we mend our ways.

Keep the good ideas and also your questions, coming along.

TM - i applaud your intent and your rationale in raising the issues. We might be safe now, and i happen to believe we are safe for a long time, but I also know that we have to do a lot of hard work.

One point on my experience with the Ultras. I loved every second of it, even when the more boisterous started that mad DISCO chant that leads to the shoving and pushing. I might not be as young as the kids in that group, but I know that there was a protective circle around me. a couple of strong young arms made sure i did not fall down !

see my separate thread on that subject

accyweb · 09-11-2009, 10:47

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Originally Posted by expatriate

PM me if you wish, or email me on [email protected] (and that email is available to all fans and supporters).

Ilyas

I haven't met Mr Khan for a long time (since Tech Pacific days) but I know his heart's in the right place for Accy. But i'm not a fan of footie in general so don't have any comments on Stanley.