Our Defence - Page 2

cashman · 06-04-2010, 18:57

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Originally Posted by smudgie

Bring back king kenny arthur

I Wish......

smudgie · 06-04-2010, 18:59

Dont we all

DAV007 · 06-04-2010, 19:20

Ian Dunbavin has improved this year, the word im looking for is Matured.

football19 · 06-04-2010, 19:41

I like to take to task valarian blaming deano/left back for the defensive problems , firsty all the goals conceeded are to be seen on tv, how many would you put down to him ? watch them and you will be suprised.
The biggest culprit is what is called the square ie 2 centre backs and 2 centre midfielders. doesnt matter how many crosses come in ,if your square defends particulary the second ball you rarely conceed.
The other main problem is the full backs are asked to stay out wide leaving big gaps between the full back and centre backs for runners to exploit . different coaches have different ideas on this
true deano is a centre back/sweeper but has played there only twice (and he scored).
His best position is sweeper prob along side kempo ,but edwards wont be rested as hes played over 100 consecutive games
He played along side kempo in pre season and they never conceeded whilst together.
The major factor is the pitches,and since feb its there for all to see,the team have been asked to go long and the team has not got the players to do this,hence the ball just comes straight back
So before looking for scapegoats , study the facts first,by the way he can use his left foot as well as his right ---- rant over

VALAIRIAN · 06-04-2010, 19:47

Sorry football19 - in no way am I blaming Winnard - re-read my post please, but I am not blaming him, I am blaming the club, for not having a LB and as Macca as so correctly pointed out, Winnard is a Right footed CB!! Winnard has been a good player for us and I would love to see him pushing/playing at CB

If it came over in any other way - sorry

Mr Matthew · 06-04-2010, 19:58

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Originally Posted by football19

I like to take to task valarian blaming deano/left back for the defensive problems , firsty all the goals conceeded are to be seen on tv, how many would you put down to him ? watch them and you will be suprised.
The biggest culprit is what is called the square ie 2 centre backs and 2 centre midfielders. doesnt matter how many crosses come in ,if your square defends particulary the second ball you rarely conceed.
The other main problem is the full backs are asked to stay out wide leaving big gaps between the full back and centre backs for runners to exploit . different coaches have different ideas on this
true deano is a centre back/sweeper but has played there only twice (and he scored).
His best position is sweeper prob along side kempo ,but edwards wont be rested as hes played over 100 consecutive games
He played along side kempo in pre season and they never conceeded whilst together.
The major factor is the pitches,and since feb its there for all to see,the team have been asked to go long and the team has not got the players to do this,hence the ball just comes straight back
So before looking for scapegoats , study the facts first,by the way he can use his left foot as well as his right ---- rant over

Who are you, his Dad???

football19 · 06-04-2010, 20:00

sorry for my rant,but he says he loves it at acci and would play anywhere, he prob has been lumbered with that position and never moans,just gives everything in ever game, hes played over 10 games injured during the season but never complained

football19 · 06-04-2010, 20:02

close family member and best mates

shakermaker · 06-04-2010, 20:09

Football19, I honestly don't know a single Accy fan that doesn't think Deano is ace. Despite playing out of position he's made very few mistakes this season, and even they were only due to inexperience in League football (one that springs to mind is penatly giveaway vs Shrewsbury at home). The fact that he took earful after earful from a frustrated Kempo on Monday and still wanted to get forward and grab a goal is a testament to his attitude. People would just feel more comfortable with a left footed full back on that side. Too often here at Stanley players are played out of position and it doesn't work. However, out of our three best left backs in recent years, two have been right footed! That includes Deano! He's miles better than (left footed) Chris King...

Christies Child · 06-04-2010, 20:19

STRANGE how a season can throw up differing situations.

You've got the bragging rights over us....again

Whilst it could go down to the last scheduled game at Christie Park to determine whether or not we are in the play offs.

FUNNY GAME FOOTBALL

MCR ADIM · 06-04-2010, 20:25

Deano is quality! proberly one of the best signings coley has made this season, and going to be a really good player for us over the next few years when he has more league experience, gives his all every game and likes getting foward and he has some pace aswell, hope he stays next year, proberly get snapped up by a higher league team next couple of years, like shaker says kept his head and wanted to get foward after getting his head ripped of by kempo, deano deano deano deano

maccawozzagod · 06-04-2010, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Christies Child

Whilst it could go down to the last scheduled game at Christie Park to determine whether or not we are in the play offs.

FUNNY GAME FOOTBALL

it would be funny watching a Bury v Morecambe paly off semi final, who would we support?

our perennial 'enemies' from the Bay who we are annually better than over two games but worse than over 46? or our new found love in with the ex-Lancs Mancs? Personally think that we'd have to support the home team at each leg. And supporting Morecambe would give The Ultras the chance to roll out the flags for one extra game this year! How good was it to see the 'Pride of Lancashire' flag displayed at your previous play off with Dagenham, and with all us knowing it wasn't Morecambes! looked good on t'telly

cashman · 06-04-2010, 21:16

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Ian Dunbavin has improved this year, the word im looking for is Matured.

Agreed he has, but none of the bunch i stand with think hes a league keeper.

Wynonie Harris · 06-04-2010, 21:51

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Ian Dunbavin has improved this year, the word im looking for is Matured.

This is not the word I'm looking for...and, indeed, the word I frequently utter whilst stood on the Clayton End.

rude-dog · 06-04-2010, 22:44

our defence or lack of it is alarming. we havnt had a balanced back 4 since hollis left. liam has been great as he was good in possession. that is where one of the main problems is for me. none of the back 4 are comfortable on the ball (with kempson and winnard being the main culprits). this results in the hoof ball we all hate. the midfield know its coming so they push forward expecting flick ons. we lose 1st ball and get counter attacked against a shaky defence and a hologram in goal = recipe for disaster.