Oxford Thread - Page 5

cashman · 16-04-2011, 22:50

more crap, no-one i know thinks they have a divine right to win every game, what i do know is fact i aint seen a better Div2 side this season than stanley, its also fact they are either tired or off the boil last 2 games, it aint negative n aint rocket science, big squad/best squad- not utilised or is that too difficult to comprehend?

football19 · 16-04-2011, 22:52

People keep banging on about squad rotation , are the reserves top of the league ?, are these players ripping it up in training?,because if they were , they would be in the team ,coleman and bell are nobodys fools ,if u want a place in the starting eleven u have to earn it ,reputation only gets u so far

cashman · 16-04-2011, 23:00

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Originally Posted by football19

People keep banging on about squad rotation , are the reserves top of the league ?, are these players ripping it up in training?,because if they were , they would be in the team ,coleman and bell are nobodys fools ,if u want a place in the starting eleven u have to earn it ,reputation only gets u so far

why bother wi subs then? its their Achilles heel in my eyes simple as.

football19 · 16-04-2011, 23:14

I think we are going to disagree on this cashy,players are not robots ,sometimes they may have an off day ,do u drop them ?,as the saying goes , form may be temporary,but class is perminent , I sometimes think i am on a man utd forum ,only joking cashy LOL

Revived Red · 16-04-2011, 23:16

I thought Craney had a poor game today - he seemed to not want to be involved at all. Ray Putterill or Charlie Barnett should certainly have been brought on for the second half. Our forward play, such as it was, was easily nullified by the Oxford centre backs. There seemed to be little attempt to run the channels, as the modern saying goes. To my simple mind, the game cried out for Putterill to be called upon - or even Andy Parkinson had he been on the bench.

And the officials were indeed dreadful.

cashman · 16-04-2011, 23:20

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Originally Posted by football19

I think we are going to disagree on this cashy,players are not robots ,sometimes they may have an off day ,do u drop them ?,as the saying goes , form may be temporary,but class is perminent , I sometimes think i am on a man utd forum ,only joking cashy LOL

No not drop, but if not performing use yer subs simple as. they seem to be incapable of that function or too pig headed. Macclesfield did, Oxford did today, never did em any harm.

football19 · 16-04-2011, 23:26

Subs are normally used for injurys or plan b when things are not going well ,some of the subs this season have paid off big time , some haven't, trouble is it takes time for them to pick ur the pace of the game and u can come unstuck in this period

cashman · 16-04-2011, 23:30

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Originally Posted by football19

Subs are normally used for injurys or plan b when things are not going well ,some of the subs this season have paid off big time , some haven't, trouble is it takes time for them to pick ur the pace of the game and u can come unstuck in this period

well things were not goin well last friday or today, n most of the subs this season have just been brought on in last few mins, so aint had time to do sod all or am i watching a different game?

football19 · 16-04-2011, 23:36

Don't forget cashy football is all about confidence, and if u sub a player who's not been paid for 2 months u could destroy him LOL,

football19 · 16-04-2011, 23:40

Last Friday we was winning with 2 mins to go,made a sub and conceded

carpon · 16-04-2011, 23:52

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Originally Posted by smudgie

Credit to Coley for trying to change it bringing on Rory and Barnett, but alas I think a draw was probably inevitable. Just wish Razor could have been given 20 mins at the end to try and ruffle a few feathers, oh well.

I was thinking exactly the same regarding Putterill at that point in the game....Joyce despite doing reasonably well I thought was caught in possession a couple of times, looked a bit short of the pace of the game and Putterill and fresh legs might have given a bit more drive at a point where we were chasing a win.

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy

The majority of fans on this site are not being negative, but just bemoaning the fact about squad rotation.

I wouldn't advocate switching the starting line up, but if it's plainly not working, as was clearly obvious with half an hour to go, this more than highlights Coley's reluctance to switch things around and throw subs on...
to try and change things and inject a few fresh legs.

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Originally Posted by football19

,coleman and bell are nobodys fools ,if u want a place in the starting eleven u have to earn it ,reputation only gets u so far

Fair point, however If the players in the starting eleven are looking tired and jaded (as at times they did today) surely it's better to throw fresh legs into the mix??? I played the game, albeit at a much, much lower level, but anyone and everyone knows that fresh legs can sometimes make a difference

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Originally Posted by football19

Subs are normally used for injurys or plan b when things are not going well ,some of the subs this season have paid off big time , some haven't, trouble is it takes time for them to pick ur the pace of the game and u can come unstuck in this period

That statement is contradictory, because in one breath you're saying making substitutions can work but the latter half of your statement exposes the fact that Coley's reluctance to make subs early enough often results in the subs failing to make an impact!!!

Fair enough, I personally thought Oxford did a number on us, came with a gameplan and defended quite well, although like others have mentioned, I thought we did look tired at times, the long lump forward crept into our play today and thankfully results for the other sides weren't too bad....however they could have been better had the sides above not managed to scrape draws theirselves.

cashman · 17-04-2011, 00:05

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Originally Posted by football19

Last Friday we was winning with 2 mins to go,made a sub and conceded

thats the point was made wi 2 mins to go, probably to waste time, certainly not time to bed a defender in, i felt sorry fer the lad.

would probably have been better to put him on directly after Macc put the tall forward on?

nige b · 17-04-2011, 00:16

not the greatest result nor the greatest performance but we are still in the mix and who would have predicted that in august. To have the luxury of razor and charlie on the bench gives us one hell of a chance of turning any game, unfortunately not today, however with 4 to play and only shrewsbury looks loseable we are (according to my too much time to ponder table) in with one hell of a chance of making the play offs and once again making the bookies look fools

on stanley on!

VALAIRIAN · 17-04-2011, 07:18

I am with Cashy all the way on this one - we discussed it before the game and at Macc!!! We have direct replacements on the bench, so I am not always saying we must change the style of play, but it is as plain as plain can be, some of those players are tired, I do not believe it has anything to do with wages - though I may be wrong - they have played loads of games in a short number of weeks, a lot of them on tiring pitches and as F19 has said, "They are not robots!!"

All about opinions, but there is also the small factor in some players' heads - and again I am not pointing fingers!! - but, it would not be a surprise if we played the same XI for the next four games!!!!

Bring on the "Battle of The Roses" on St. Georges Day!!!!!

Alvin the chipmunk · 17-04-2011, 07:27

I'm with smudgie, we could put 10 past Man United and the next day there'd be posts on this forum saying "Why wasn't it 11!! Absolutely shocking". Although everybody is entitled to an opinion

A clean sheet and a point without getting out of first gear. We're still in the mix boys and girls....and it beats getting beat 9-1 off Runcorn!!