Oxford thread

[Mr T]

Stewards shouldn't "watch" the game, they should observe the crowd. Part of all Stadium Safety Certificates is for regular patrols of the gangways and walkways. Watch it at Wembley, it's a form of synchranised swimming!! And they do it in pairs!!

[DAV007]

why would anyone want to get to a game 2 hours earlier than the kick of time and stand around in a hi-vis in the cold and rain if it wasn't to watch the game for free?

[yonmon]

Originally Posted by DAV007

why would anyone want to get to a game 2 hours earlier than the kick of time and stand around in a hi-vis in the cold and rain if it wasn't to watch the game for free?

I guess that this could be a rhetorical question Dav ?...If not, can I offer the suggestion that it might be so they can have first go at the Pie and Peas !.

(Just another day at 'The Crown '.)

[Mr T]

What a question!! But IF nobody was prepared to do it professional sport wouldn't exist. Sadly IF all pro sports games were policed the costs would kill us all

[yonmon]

Originally Posted by Mr T

What a question!! But IF nobody was prepared to do it professional sport wouldn't exist. Sadly IF all pro sports games were policed the costs would kill us all

It wasn't really a question more of a cheeky morsel of whimsical persiflage to brighten up a dull thread on a rainy evening !. ...honestly !!.

[Chimer]

Originally Posted by DAV007

why would anyone want to get to a game 2 hours earlier than the kick of time and stand around in a hi-vis in the cold and rain if it wasn't to watch the game for free?

For money perhaps?? Though probably not a lot.

[DAV007]

Do we pay many of the stewards?
I thought most where volunteers?
What is the hourly rate?
What attendance do we base our steward levels on?
I thought you had to pay for the police if they considered a certain away teams following to be troublesome?

[yonmon]

Originally Posted by DAV007

Do we pay many of the stewards?
I thought most where volunteers?
What is the hourly rate?
What attendance do we base our steward levels on?
I thought you had to pay for the police if they considered a certain away teams following to be troublesome?

If it compares with the Emirates Stadium Dav then it's £6:00
an hour !!..
AND to join their force potential and existing Stewards must meet the following criteria, and I quote their website...

" Bright, articulate, dependable and highly motivated Safety Stewarding and Customer Support Staff at the Emirates Stadium."...

Perhaps it's a similar situation at t'Storefirst Stadium who can say ??

[winstanley asfc]

It's not the stewarding that's the problem,the lack of ballboys/girls is bad. The sight of the Oxford keeper having to fag the ball from the corner post on more than one occasion was embarrassing!
Why can't the youth team players do the job? It's all good experience!

[Outback Ozzy]

Originally Posted by DAV007

Do we pay many of the stewards?
I thought most where volunteers?
What is the hourly rate?
What attendance do we base our steward levels on?
I thought you had to pay for the police if they considered a certain away teams following to be troublesome?

As a former steward in the days of Eric Whalley can I just say you do it for the love of the club and NO you shouldn't be watching the match, although it is hard not to watch when the excitement gets going. The club then paid about £15 per match which if you do the sums there were approximately 30 stewards per game) works out at £450 per match, 1 policeman in the ground costs the club near £600 per match which is why the majority of our matches are Police free. Also, to be a steward, you need to pass some basic exams which include crowd control, extraction of troublemakers and basic fire control and first aid. The attendance levels are always guesstimates which is why the club have a similar number of stewards per match regardless of size of crowd. One other point is that we have Ground Regulation Stewards borrowed from security firms which do cost a little extra, but how much I do not know.
As for the stewards who you think are thick/doing a pointless task, why don't you volunteer? Or would you like to sit on a seat that some kid has put his feet on after he has stood in dog dirt etc etc. I would guess no! They are only doing a thankless job, respect them please instead of criticising them.

[DAV007]

Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy

As for the stewards who you think are thick/doing a pointless task, why don't you volunteer? Or would you like to sit on a seat that some kid has put his feet on after he has stood in dog dirt etc etc. I would guess no!.

Of course, because that happens all the time.

I didn't realise the police cost was so expensive.
Its also a bit unfair; police at our level will only be interest in teams with away fans with reputation.
That's never likely to be our fans (maybe the Morecambe game because of the sheer numbers?).
But it is likely to be the fans of a handful of other clubs and its not the other club who pays for the police but teams like Stanley.
Seems unfair to me.

[Outback Ozzy]

Originally Posted by DAV007

Of course, because that happens all the time.

I didn't realise the police cost was so expensive.
Its also a bit unfair; police at our level will only be interest in teams with away fans with reputation.
That's never likely to be our fans (maybe the Morecambe game because of the sheer numbers?).
But it is likely to be the fans of a handful of other clubs and its not the other club who pays for the police but teams like Stanley.
Seems unfair to me.

Policing costs may seem unfair, but the general rule of thumb is the home team have to pay for them. I think you may also find if a club has known trouble makers, then local police for that team may send spotters to assist in apprehending any troublemakers/fans who are barred from all football grounds