Petrol Prices

[Willie Miller]

This sounds like it could work, lets give it a try. Beat the price
hikes
!!!!




We are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer. ant petrol
prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action.

Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day"
campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just
laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves
by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it
was a problem for them.

BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can
really work. Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at 77p -80p, we need to take
aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not
sellers.
With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to
take
action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down
is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And
we
can
do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two
biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not
selling
any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce
their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have
an
impact, we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol
buyers.
It's
really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point... keep
reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people! I
am sending this note to a; lot of people. If each of you send it to at
least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten
more
(300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the
sixth
generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers!

If those three million get excited and pass this on to
ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it
goes one level further, you guessed it... .. THREE HUNDRED MILLION
PEOPLE!!! Again,all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's
all.(and not
buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this
email
out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people
could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you
didn't
think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can
make
a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.
PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE

Action:

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your
petrol at Shell, Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons (75p)Jet etc. i.e. boycott
BP
and
Esso.

[glosterred]

spent the weekend in ireland where petrol is less than a euro a litre!!!why dont we all get the ferry over and fill up in dublin!!! the money saved will cover the ferry!!!

[fatman]

Here's a different view....



There is an email circulating the net encouraging people to boycott certain
petrol companies in the hope of bringing petrol prices down, before you
support it, perhaps you might like to consider this.

Here's a c&p from the Transport 2000 website.
http://www.transport2000.org.uk/

Chancellor must `stand firm` on fuel duty, says Transport 2000

News comment issued Tuesday 25 May 2004

Fuel protests are being threatened in response to September's planned increase in petrol and diesel duty of 1.9p/litre, 0.5p above inflation, as the price of crude oil currently reaches a high.

Confirming Transport 2000's support for the increase in fuel duty, Stephen Joseph, Director of Transport 2000, said: "We're obsessed with the price of fuel in this country as though the national mood depends on it. This increase in duty is needed to pay for better public transport and help bring down the cost differential between using cars and public transport. The Chancellor must stand firm against the protesters.

"What the current situation does show is our shocking dependence on imported
oil and our vulnerability as a result. By 2010 the UK will be a net importer
of energy for the first time in its history. It makes sense to reduce our
reliance on oil by reducing our use of cars. If we are serious about
tackling climate change too, then motoring will have to become significantly
more expensive. It might not go down well with motorists but they probably
ain't seen nothing yet. The real focus should be on reducing the cost of
using public transport. The Government should make a start by introducing a
national discount railcard."

Transport 2000 also said:

Since the last fuel protest in 2000 hauliers have seen Vehicle Excise Duty
on HGVs halved. Diesel duty has been frozen in real terms.

Fuel duty is higher in the UK than most other EU countries but the full
basket of motoring taxes, including fuel duty, purchase tax, VED and road
tolls, is about average.

The current oil situation and September's rise in duty will not affect the
poorest people because they don't have cars. Twenty-eight per cent of
households don't have access to a car.

Over the past 20 years the overall cost of motoring has in real terms
remained at or below the 1980 level while bus fares have risen by 31 per
cent and rail fares by 37 per cent. (Source: DfT Transport Trends 2002.)

The real cost of motoring fell by 4.8 per cent between 1997 and 2003. During
the same period the cost of travelling by train rose by 3 per cent and the
cost of travelling by bus rose by 8.2 per cent. (Source: House of Commons
Hansard April 2004.)

Climate scientists say we must cut global greenhouse emissions by 60 per
cent by 2050 if we are to avoid the worst of climate change. Road traffic is
responsible for around 20 per cent of carbon dioxide emissions in the UK and
rising.

[AccyMad]

Could someone please tell me what this has got to do with football!!!

[Bottletop]

Yes Accymad you need fuel to make the transport go to get you to away games!!!

[Bazf]

With a theory like that we should have pictures of the coaches and cars on this thread unless we all go on the super fast electric milk float.

[AccyMad]

Really Bottletop - wouldn't have thought we needed fuel for the coaches, but seroiusly Loweiy has already said there won't be any increase in the coach prices next season hasn't he? And the thread did go on a bit!!

[Bazf]

MOTORISTS will be shocked at the huge amount of tax Gordon Brown siphons off for Treasury coffers at the petrol pump.The Treasury’s share from petrol amounts to 73 per cent, leaving just the scraps to the petrol stations, distributors and producers.

While we fork out 61p to the Treasury for every 83p litre of fuel, lucky Americans stump up just 8p tax in a 30p litre. That’s the equivalent of 27 per cent.
On the Continent, France also pays 73 per cent to the government, but their petrol costs 75p a litre. Just 55p is tax.
Wow no wonder people get ****ed off.

[Mick]

They should put the price of petrol up to 95p a litre
and do away with road tax
there by the people that have the biggest car or those that use the road more would pay more tax
those that use there car just to go to the shop would not pay as much in tax as say a rep

[Roy]

Mick, some people rely on vehicles to get about, to and from work or whatever. People who just use the motor to go to the shop should just walk!

People who have bigger cars already pay more, in petrol, in tax when they buy the car, in road tax.

There is no problem really in not getting enough money from road users. It is just our government are greedy.

[Mick]

Try walking to pc world hehe

[Roy]

Actually, thinking about it, isn't it about time pedestrians got taxed? Pavement tax sounds good to me. Pavements have to be repaired, pedestrians cause chaos on the roads with there pelican crossings and them zebra things that us road users would rather just zip through.. they all cost money you know. And if we encouraged a few more pedestrians to stay at home, the speed limit could be increased. Thus leading to more economical driving and using less fuel.

[Mick]

Most of the damage to the pavement is caused by cars being parked on them
there was a transit van parked the other day right in the middle of the pavement across from holland street you had to walk in the road to pass it .
anyway the police were just telling him to move it as i passed and he said Quote"whats the problem there was nowere els to park "
some drivers !!!!!

[Roy]

Well if you want us drivers to stay off your pavements, then you pedestrians stay off our roads.. fairs fair eh?

[Tin Monkey]

I don't think you can compare the taxation system in the UK to that in the US. The US has only a minimum welfare system and no NHS, so you're not comparing like with like.

Our welfare state and NHS needs paying for.