Players in, Players out????

[qualtrough]

Fair enough...these decisions are the manager's to make and, I guess, he knows best. I just hope Jonathan Smith does get a testimonial and everyone turns up because there hasn't been a better, more loyal servant of the club.

[AccyMad]

I'm gutted for these lads who have all given 100% (and more) to Stanley in the last few years but at least by announcing it before tonights match the fans can have a chance to say a proper goodbye to them, I hope they're all given the chance to play tonight for one last time in a Stanley shirt.

[Adam Cottier]

for those interested. Coley will explain all to me on Radio Lancs tonight. Should be on before 7 or maybe just after.

[smudgie]

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couldent agree more !!!

what a disgrace!
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[Smiffy16]

Obviously making room for more out of work scousers.
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couldent agree more !!!

what a disgrace!

I have been one of Jonny Smith's biggest fans over the years and he was a very, very good defender, and still is BUT he isn't good enough for us in my opinion. He maybe the best header of the ball in the league and maybe in most leagues even in the football league but the conference has changed you need to be very technical and good on the ball and this which you all should agree with me isnt one of Jonathon's skills and he will even say that.

It is similar to the Lutel situation, these players have been fantastic servants to the club and I personally wish them the very best and thank them for their effort and commitment to the club

[Mik Griff]

Originally Posted by Smiffy16

I have been one of Jonny Smith's biggest fans over the years and he was a very, very good defender, and still is BUT he isn't good enough for us in my opinion. He maybe the best header of the ball in the league and maybe in most leagues even in the football league but the conference has changed you need to be very technical and good on the ball and this which you all should agree with me isnt one of Jonathon's skills and he will even say that.

It is similar to the Lutel situation, these players have been fantastic servants to the club and I personally wish them the very best and thank them for their effort and commitment to the club

Quoted for truth.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Adam Cottier

for those interested. Coley will explain all to me on Radio Lancs tonight. Should be on before 7 or maybe just after.

Adam, for those of us who didn't (or couldn't) catch your interview, could you give us a summary of what he said please?

[Adam Cottier]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Adam, for those of us who didn't (or couldn't) catch your interview, could you give us a summary of what he said please?

Right i've listened to it back. Here are the key points Coley made about departures:


making room for new players

sorry to see them go - but they're the ones who could go (contracts etc)

regards them as friends - but club needs to move on

squad needs to be smaller because of POOR HOME CROWDS. money etc.

Players will have no problem finding new clubs

John Smith - shining example to club - always learning gives 100% asset for another club

Lutel - good times with him - he has to move on though

All his (Colemans) decisions nobody elses

Targets set. speaking to a few over next couple of weeks

Thinks the club underachieved this year - consistancy a problem.

Admits hes made some mistakes this year - presure told towards the end

Do you still enjoy being manger? - I love it, want more success etc.

More players may leave. Depending on offers.

[KIPAX]

At last! A contribution to the forum... Well done Adam...

[Wynonie Harris]

Thanks very much for the info, Adam.

Originally Posted by Adam Cottier

squad needs to be smaller because of POOR HOME CROWDS. money etc.

More players may leave. Depending on offers.

Perhaps all those who asked me to give it a rest when I was warning about the consequences of low attendances will believe me now. This is a direct consequence of being one of the worst-supported professional clubs in the country.

[Staveros]

Originally Posted by Adam Cottier

Right i've listened to it back. Here are the key points Coley made about departures:


making room for new players

sorry to see them go - but they're the ones who could go (contracts etc)

regards them as friends - but club needs to move on

squad needs to be smaller because of POOR HOME CROWDS. money etc.

Players will have no problem finding new clubs

John Smith - shining example to club - always learning gives 100% asset for another club

Lutel - good times with him - he has to move on though

All his (Colemans) decisions nobody elses

Targets set. speaking to a few over next couple of weeks

Thinks the club underachieved this year - consistancy a problem.

Admits hes made some mistakes this year - presure told towards the end

Do you still enjoy being manger? - I love it, want more success etc.

More players may leave. Depending on offers.

Very disturbing things to hear. I can only see the club going backwards with this negative attitude. The squad, quality wise, was already threadbare IMHO so to reduce numbers further, presumably selling some of our better players(Quote "offers"), seems suicidal to me.

The attendances have been poor this year, yes. That I feel is because people like me, who support another club, have been less inclined to come when available due to the lack of progression made since last season.

The squad, essentially, is pretty good but I think we were all expecting some higher quality additions following on from the cup run last year that would really give us a chance of competeing at the top. They weren't forthecoming. Lets have it right, if your coughing up the current admission prices you want some entertainment for your hard earned. You can agree or not, I dont really care, thats just how it is.

Possibly more importantly, where is the Clayton End roof???? I understand a penny saved and all that but how do you expect people to continue to turn up and freeze to death and get pi55ed wet through during the winter months?? The whole situation has, in my opinion, made the club look 'tin pot' and has degenerated into a complete farce.

Its only my opinion again but I think this is a classic 'build it and they will come' scenario. Sort the roof out ASAP, stop the crazy talk of getting rid of our best players and make some quality additions and lets see what happens. If we get a good squad of 20 together, minus the mid season nomads and misfits I think Stanley can make a proper challenge and get people interseted again. A 'big name' summer signing would help a lot. I cant believe the Payton opportunity was passed up but it was. Someone of that ilk would help a lot.

And...., FFS, please get some advertising of fixtures done. How much could it possiby cost to get some sort of big board on the main road likw what Burnley have advertising the next fixture?? I think that alone would pay for itself and add a few to the gate very quickly. At the moment the only thing that seems professional about the club is the wages they will be paying!!!

[AccyMad]

Payton opportunity? - Payton liability more like. We certainly do not need the likes of him at Stanley. If you think he would have been a 'big name' signing you're off your rocker! The only thing I would agree about is your comments about the Clayton End roof and (fingers crossed) this is supposed to be completed in the summer.

[Jimbo T Hornblower]

I have to disagree with ya - less inclined to attend due to lack of progression??? THATS EXACTLY THE POINT!!!!! How can the club progress and get these signings if peeps 'cant be arsed' to turn up?? And there HAS been progression this season - ok not in the league table position and the Clayton End roof situation but the club has progressed...

Jimbo T blower

[smudgie]

i would agree that the club has progressed, however id like 2 think how people think it could progress any more, if the attendances stay the same???

personally i dont think the Clayton End would make that much of a difference!

Of course i would like to see it built and for a few games attendances would increase as people would want to have a look, however i honestly think that unless we can sustain a top 3 place throughout the season then the attendance will stay the same!, unless we have another FA cup run, or play some teams with a large following!

[JEFF]

personally i dont think the Clayton End would make that much of a difference!

Of course i would like to see it built and for a few games attendances would increase as people would want to have a look

Of course a roof over the Clayton end would make a difference. I know quite a few people who will not go and watch Stanley if it is raining, and I am sure that there are a lot of people with nothing to do on a Saturday would not even think of going to watch Stanley if it looked like raining, but would go if there was a roof to shelter under. We usually get around 1200 for home games when the opposition do not bring many, all supposedly faithfull Stanley supporters who never miss a game. Why was it then we only got 400 on Tuesday for a cup final ? Was it because it was raining ? Was it because season ticket holders had to pay ? Or was it because some of the faithfull supporters couldn't be bothered ?