Question for the "Ultra's"

Redskin · 25-02-2005, 22:53

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KIPAX · 25-02-2005, 22:59

Thats what the official supporters club is for.. channeling anything they make back into the club.. and a nice job they/we do of it.

Ultras was set up for the fans and to raise the profile of the club as well as the atmosphere and matchday experience....... sponsoring a game or making a donation wont raise the profile of accy stanley..

the money for the plane wasn't taken out of ultras funds As far as I know but was put in by six members of the ultras..

HTH

As far as I know = As far As I know
HTH = Hope That Helps
This explanation makes using them pointless... but owt for a laff

Redskin · 25-02-2005, 23:01

It would be a great gesture though!

Take away the Stanley and you have no Ultra's.

Maybe T-shirts should be a joint venture?

KIPAX · 25-02-2005, 23:05

It would be a great gesture. especialy when there struggling for sponsors sometimes...

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Give us time Redskin. The Ultras havent been going as long as the club & fundraising is still at the early stages. Bear in mind while these events are on the clubhouse & bar are being used & this all contributes to the development of the club. What has been done has raised the club profile well so far-remember the streamers at Halifax & although only a few members -the six - paid for the plane, havent you heard the buzz around town re it? I call on clients all round & many were pleased to see such a stunt as they are fed up with the big clubs, mega wages players et al. It will all come back to the club & most importantly promote The Stanley. The milk ad is dead & buried- the Ultras are the next generation.

So get behind us & even join in-it is so much fun( & warmer on the terraces on a cold winters night!)

Redskin · 26-02-2005, 12:44

I was not criticising, merely asking a question. i think what you have achieved thus far is commendable!

KIPAX · 26-02-2005, 12:55

I knew what ya meant mate.. stand with me over here in the missunderstood corner

Willie Miller · 26-02-2005, 17:42

Sponsoring the game is a good idea but the Ultras were never started as a money raiser for ASFC; the OSC do ok with that .....

Its for evrything to do with the terrace, away travel & a collective term for those people behind the goal. However, you don't have to be active to be an Ultra or support the Ultras.

All suggestions greatly received though people ....... www.stanleyultras.co.uk

Henry Morton · 27-02-2005, 03:45

Previous replies to Redskin's intelligent question have been very helpful, and they've painted a pretty accurate picture of the relationship between the Official Supporters' Club and the Ultras.

In the early stages of the Ultras' formation there was a brief discussion as to the possibility of the Ultras coming under the "umbrella" of the OSC ; this was because we (the OSC) were rather afraid that there might be a repeat of the Junior Reds situation where well-intentioned enthusiasm got the better of practicality.

The Ultras decided not to join in with the OSC , although both parties acknowledged that we were working hard to benefit Accrington Stanley in our own ways , and I can honestly say that - after my initial scepticism - the Ultras have done a fine job in raising the profile of ASFC.

What the Ultras do is neither cheap nor easy. They work very hard indeed and , because of their relatively informal structure , they don't need a long "lead time" from the conception of an idea to its implementation. Hence, new ideas and imaginative concepts don't have to be shelved for another month until they can be considered by a committee , and there is no doubt that this has enabled them to move very quickly in comparison to the Official Supporters' Club.

This is bound to be attractive to younger supporters, and I know that this was a major consideration in the formation of the Ultras.

I suppose that the Official Supporters' Club has adopted the position of a benevolent uncle who sees the "youngsters" enjoying themselves and just hopes that they won't come to any great harm ! And, like any decent uncle, the Club doesn't look to the Ultras to provide it with cash ; the very fact that our "nephews" are having lots of fun and attracting lots of (favourable, we hope) attention to Accrington Stanley is quite sufficient.

Meanwhile, we of the OSC are very happy to continue with our fund-raising for the likes of the Clayton Terrace project which was mentioned at the beginning of this thread.

More significantly, in a very short time the Supporters' Club will be opening its doors to a World-Wide Membership as part of a long term plan to increase the awareness of the Accrington Stanley "Brand" in every football-speaking place in the known Universe. And , please believe me , we're going to have a lot of fun doing it !

So more power to the Ultras to do their excellent thing, but please rely on the Official Supporters' Club to help raise the money that Accrington Stanley needs to complete essential major projects.

Thanks,

Henry, on behalf of . . .

Steve Baker (Secretary) Supporters' Club

maidstoneaccy · 27-02-2005, 10:03

Henry as a stanley supporter for 2 years now i get most information about what is going on in and arround the club is via the internet,now as someone that sees more away games than home, could i sugest that someone from the osc or the ultras bring some of the club merchandice to away games for us southern supporters to purchase?
Still looking forward to getting to see the new OSC website ( any news )
see you all at canvey match

KIPAX · 27-02-2005, 11:47

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In the early stages of the Ultras' formation there was a brief discussion as to the possibility of the Ultras coming under the "umbrella" of the OSC ; this was because we (the OSC) were rather afraid that there might be a repeat of the Junior Reds situation where well-intentioned enthusiasm got the better of practicality.

WHAT? Henry.. who had this conversation?. I aint a betting man but if I was then I would bet it wasn't anyone from the ultras. You just made it look like the ultra wanted to be part of the OSC but you declned... thats how it reads to me. Can you explain please or if someone from the ultras was in on this brief discussion to be part of the OSC can you explain.. can anyone explain the above...

I only ask because the OSC and the ULtras are two totally different organisations.. One is for fund raising for the club and one is for the fans... the OSC can never be one and the Ultras can never be the other.

So unless my whole belief in the ultras is to be blown out of the window can someone explain who had this conversation and if the ultras where even present?

Hope no one minds me asking

zayno14 · 27-02-2005, 12:33

Whats the OSC?

Cafu01 · 27-02-2005, 12:46

official supporters club

ossyclogger · 27-02-2005, 12:52

Kipax, you really must try to get to more OSC meetings !

Willie Miller · 27-02-2005, 13:55

Sorry but Kipax is correct, first meeting of Ultras in Crown with 4 people present & no mention of OSC (Whatever that is

) Loweiy then asked to pop along to tell them what is going on!

I actually remember that before we did anything a member of the OSC Committee came on here & called us all fascists!!!!!!!

Only our displays, flags, scarves & our attendance at YOUR meetings have changed this misconception.

However, there is no need for any discussion. The Official Supporters Club have there role & we have ours, each to their own & each has a vital role to play

IT IS JUST OURS IS MORE FUN!