Rob Heys

expatriate · 29-10-2009, 20:48

Good evening everyone - and a very special evening since its the first time in ages that i am able to enjoy two nights on the trot in Accy. Sheer bliss !

I have been following the comments about Rob, and feel compelled to make this statement. I know this will not be something many of you agree upon - and that is the great thing about open and transparent debate that we can disagree but maintain a courteous dignity and an open mind - but here goes.

I have known Rob for many years. In fact I have known and worked with Rob in good times and in bad. It is my view that the worst that Rob can be accused of is being exceedingly naive, and commercially quite silly. I would also say that Rob is probably just as much a victim as the rest of us. Possibly more so than most.

I would encourage and urge you all to please take into account the difficult circumstances he has to face. His statements have indeed at times been proven to be incorrect, but even when he has "lied" i believe he was simply working off information he was given. I would also say that it is my honest opinion that on Friday night, Rob believed that the club was going to make good on its obligations. Its not his fault that he was let down by people who did lie and who have actively misled us all.
I would close by saying I happen to know (ie i have incontrovertible proof) that Rob has tried all he can to mortgage his house. He also contributed thousands to the HMRC payment - again in stark and amazing contrast to ALL OTHER DIRECTORS.

I respectfully would ask you all to bear this in mind. Even if you believe that Rob is guilty of acts and statements that are horrible (I can think of at least two statements that were plainly stupid), I would ask that you think of his circumstances. He is often the last man standing, and the only person who actually gets on with the job.

I guess this will open the floodgates, and i am prepared to hear awful things, but I for one do not want to see this personal animosity grow. He is a true fan, "stanley till i die" is branded on his heart. Like many of the rest of us. He is a brother who has erred. Lets forgive him, and lets look forward.

good evening,
Ilyas

baldy · 29-10-2009, 21:00

One of the best posts in a long while!

Stanleymad · 29-10-2009, 21:01

Wow ok amazed he had risked his own home for stanley. It makes me more angry at don and Ew imho allowing rob to risk a lot and no doubt doesn't have much plus a young family to consider grr sorry feel quite annoyed. Glad u have enjoyed time at home ilyas

Willie Miller · 29-10-2009, 21:09

Here Here

baldy · 29-10-2009, 21:13

I personally think if we had a club where transparency was used, Rob would be a quality asset.

I feel under EW and the DON, Rob has had to go along with whatever they say, The fact that he has gone as far as he has to mortgage hes house when he has a young family to support, shows hes passion and hes commitment cannot be questioned IMHO!

I hope he will still be at the club in the long term.

If Rob didn't work for the club, He would be in the "Sophia Khan stand" every week with a Stanley scarf! FACT!

Shurm · 29-10-2009, 21:17

When I went to see Mr O'Neil and Rob a few weeks ago Rob said he was remortgaging his house to raise funds for the club and he said other Directors were going to put money in, at that point I asked Rob if he was now a Director and he replied no but he was still intending to remortgage his home.

I didn't feel it was right at the time to mention this as he asked me not to and this is one of the reasons I truly believed with people like him there the club would be saved.

I think personally he has been very naive and should probably have resigned if he felt that the club was not being run properly however it must be an awful decision to make when you love the job you do and you have a young family to support as well.

I'm sure there is a position for Rob at the club in some capacity whether it be CEO or otherwise.

cashman · 29-10-2009, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Shurm

I think personally he has been very naive and should probably have resigned if he felt that the club was not being run properly however it must be an awful decision to make when you love the job you do and you have a young family to support as well.

I'm sure there is a position for Rob at the club in some capacity whether it be CEO or otherwise.

right after digesting ilyas post n yours shurm, am quite prepared to accept he has been naive n stupid, i can also accept what both of ya are saying, reason being you both obviously know a lot more than i, don't know you shurm, but trust ilyas 100%, he had no need whatsoever to start this thread, given the way he has been treated, speaks volumes fer the guy in my book.

LongLostSon · 29-10-2009, 21:39

Thankyou for the insight Ilyas. Only met Rob once or twice during Unibond/Conference days so obviously not able to judge his character for myself. Had suspected from radio interviews that maybe he was being used as a puppet.

Redskin · 29-10-2009, 21:55

It is extremely disappointing, to say the least, the way some people are being treated!.......There is just no need for some of the things to have been said!.......a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing..

Doug · 29-10-2009, 21:57

Thank you Mr. Khan. I’m not sure I would want my friends (if I had any) to be that candid in their appraisal of me. However; I am both pleased and relieved at your post and I hope that this mans actions that have gone unpublished until today go some way to softening some hearts on this site towards this gentlemen.

Redskin · 29-10-2009, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Doug

Thank you Mr. Khan. I’m not sure I would want my friends (if I had any) to be that candid in their appraisal of me. However; I am both pleased and relieved at your post and I hope that this mans actions that have gone unpublished until today go some way to softening some hearts on this site towards this gentlemen.

Here, Here, a True Gentleman that I am Proud to stand next to and call my Friend!

cashman · 29-10-2009, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Doug

Thank you Mr. Khan. I’m not sure I would want my friends (if I had any) to be that candid in their appraisal of me. However; I am both pleased and relieved at your post and I hope that this mans actions that have gone unpublished until today go some way to softening some hearts on this site towards this gentlemen.

well doug its gone some way to softening my position towards heys, still far from happy about some of his recent actions, but understand a bit more now, n by the way i'm yer friend n i think yer n ugly git, to be perfectly candid.

Redskin · 29-10-2009, 22:09

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Originally Posted by cashman

well doug its gone some way to softening my position towards heys, still far from happy about some of his recent actions, but understand a bit more now, n by the way i'm yer friend n i think yer n ugly git, to be perfectly candid.

I was referring to Rob!

Chimer · 29-10-2009, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Shurm

I think personally he has been very naive and should probably have resigned if he felt that the club was not being run properly however it must be an awful decision to make when you love the job you do and you have a young family to support as well.

Another reason for not resigning in such circumstances is a belief that if you stay put you might be able to do something to help, even if this means gritting your teeth and toeing the corporate line in public. From what those who know Rob have repeatedly said about him and his feelings for ASFC, I could believe (and do hope) this was the case. Ilyas' statement helps that hope along.

Whatever, someone has to keep doing the day-to-day stuff to keep the show on the road while the dust settles. Hanging the guy who is probably the only one who knows what is needed won't help.

Blessed are the peacemakers .......

cashman · 29-10-2009, 22:25

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Originally Posted by cashman

well doug its gone some way to softening my position towards heys, still far from happy about some of his recent actions, but understand a bit more now, n by the way i'm yer friend n i think yer n ugly git, to be perfectly candid.

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Originally Posted by Redskin

I was referring to Rob!

so was i.