Rochdale (Rejects?)

[sparkie]

Originally Posted by MCR ADIM

it's just wages though!! he oviously left as he thought the grass was greener and it wasn't!! i'd have him back and kallum!

It wasn't a case of the grass is greener. Kenny is engaged (he might even be married now, I've never asked!) and his fiance was having to give up her job to move down here from scotland to live with him. The wages will have been a factor given this, but I can't see Dale paying him massive wages in comparison and now that his missus is down here and I would imagine probably working by now, he could probably afford a little drop.

Another major reason Kenny moved was the then percieved instability surrounding the club after the first HMRC court date way back in may last year. He could not afford given his personal circumstances (missus & starting a business up) to be in a position where he may recieve his wages late or the club he plays for go under (and we all know how close that was!!).

He made the move not because he wanted to but because he felt he needed to, due to cicrumstances.

I still speak to Kenny regularly and he always asks how its going at the crown and I know he really enjoyed his time here. Maybe, just maybe we stand a chance of getting him back, I personnally with be hoping that Kenny comes back more than keeping Symes!!!

[Redash]

Originally Posted by Grimps

just look at symes when he came 1st he was .. look at him now hes holding the club up for more £'s or league 1 so i would give the lad a good trade syems for king as wel before june 1

We can't trade Symes for anybody, not even washers. He's almost a free agent

[smudgie]

Would love to see them both back !!!

[Mr T]

Sparkie

TOP POST!! Spot on!!

King Kenny is getting married this summer, and yes he's got a house in Manchester on the back of a 2 year deal.

Would I have him back, YES PLEASE, IF the terms were right. Sorry we cannot afford any more prima donnas whoever they are!!!

[maccawozzagod]

Originally Posted by Pendle Red

I was not overly impressed with Kallum in either of his loan spells with Stanley,

Originally Posted by new red

... but didnt impress me when on loan spell here.

do any loan players ever really get chance to impress? Tom Lees is the notable exception but Coley doesn't seem to let loanees play regularly. I thought he had nice neat touches and was good for running at tired legs. I reckon he'd really benefit from a good run in a side. On the flip side we either haven't had, or haven't properly utilised wingers for a good while now, would it be any different if we had an authentic winger?

Originally Posted by sparkie

I still speak to Kenny regularly ...

get on the phone Sparkie!

[sparkie]

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

get on the phone Sparkie!

I've already sent him a text saying unlucky mate and you know where you'll be loved by the fans forever!!

[cashman]

Originally Posted by sparkie

I've already sent him a text saying unlucky mate and you know where you'll be loved by the fans forever!!

Good on yer sparks, God loves a trier.

[vicburdett]

I think kenny aurther would be a good move for us,we have struggled all season between the posts, we have scored plenty but conceded more, down to keeper and defence.sometimes we had to score 2 or 3 goals a game to win a match and sometimes that was,nt enough.in kallums case 1 goal against us beit a cracker,dosent,warrent a 2 year deal.coleys shrewd,hes already got replacements lines up,lets see what happens over summer,

[vicburdett]

kenny before symes, you must be mad.id put joe the physio in goal if it ment keeping symesy,

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by vicburdett

kenny before symes, you must be mad.id put joe the physio in goal if it ment keeping symesy,

Joe the physio is probably better than the goalkeeper we have at the moment, but I would prefer Kenny before Symes.

[sparkie]

Originally Posted by vicburdett

kenny before symes, you must be mad.id put joe the physio in goal if it ment keeping symesy,

Nope not mad, far from it! I know the value of having a good keeper and what a difference it makes to the guys infront of him. I also know just how difficult it is to find a good keeper who fits in with the setup of your team and the the way you want to distribute the ball. Kenny fits the bill big time!!

As far as Symes is concerned his contribution this year in goals has been well worth us taking the chance, but his efforts since January have been massively substandard and if his head can be turned so easily and his form suffer so much just by pure speculation of a 'big move' then what happens next January if he does stay, the same again? Next year it could cost us a definate chance of promotion if an in form striker like symes suddenly decides he's gonna be lazy and wait for his 'big move' once again.

No brainer for me I'm afraid, I'll take a keeper who will win us points in tight games over a flaky striker who plays when he thinks people are watching any day! There are plenty of Micheal Symes's out there and Coley has proved he is more than capable if finding them.

[vicburdett]

Have to disagree sparkie,we have looked great goin forward just cant defended to save our lives, we had a keeper from liverpool whos not far off their first team and on ten grand a week who is better than aurthers,and prob goin to world cup,seen it to many times this season how we conceded soft goal after soft goal, sorry mate dont buy that,symesy played great up untill feb then was a bit indifferent in march and april, nothing to do with transfers,the lad has never played so many games for years and it showed towards the end,so if clubs were watching, they wont be taking the chance with him,if thats the case,but in 75 per cent off the games he played,he was great for us,id take that any time over a keeper,respect mate.

[Pendle Red]

interesting thread this one

I would like Symes to stay but he as others have mentioned has looked a pale shadow of himself the last few months of the season.

I am not bothered about big names and steady eddies so long as they are 100% committed to Stanley and show it in their play that will do for me.

[theresonlyoneaccy]

Originally Posted by shakermaker

How how how how how how how how how how how how how?

Please, describe one way in which that simile works, aside from a player returning to a former club.

First thing that came into my head. He's left the club once so would his heart fully be at Stanley if he returned?

[Redash]

He left due to circumstances explained earlier in the thread. I think Kenney would be committed to Stanley, and too professional not to be committed.