roscoe desane another justin jackson ?

alan7554 · 26-08-2007, 10:33

remember justin jackson another big name striker,who did,nt get his chance at stanley, we go and buy one off the best non league strikers in the game (as proven at aldershot f.c ) and what happens for the 1st 2 games he is,nt even in the squad and leaves last week after the 2nd darlo goal went in, and this week he is on the bench and does,nt even get a sniff. no wonder he seems fed up, will he go the same way as justin jackson not even being allowed to show the fans what he can do,why buy a forward of his calibre and then ignore him,cant blame him if he decides to go somewere else,wake up coley and get lardy arse mcevilly out and give someone that you paid money for a chance,have some bottle and swallow your pride coley,evil is a big mistake to be in the team at the moment,give roscoe a chance before its to late.

ddevil2006 · 26-08-2007, 11:21

Yes you could be right but let's give him a couple of weeks as he as had an injury (don't forget we had andy tretton as well) but what worries me more is over aged ex-burnley players (Armstrong, Cook, Crighton,and now branch)
not good ?

Tin Monkey · 26-08-2007, 11:35

Hmmm.... Justin Jackson was given an opportunity, but he blew it. That was the player, not the management's, fault.

DSane hasn't been given an opportunity yet, but if he's now fit, then hopefully we'll get to see what he can do. We certainly need more variation in our play, as defenders know how to stop us playing now.

As ddevil says, DSane is more like a Tretton than a JJ at the moment.

alan7554 · 26-08-2007, 11:55

must have been fully fit on saturday as he was on the bench,but still not given a chance,and as i recall justin jackson was never in the starting line up in the 5 games he played for stanley,sub each time,once again this is no motivation for a striker if his arse is warming the bench when there are players in the team who clearly are not fit enough in the first place to warrent a place,i am not slagging evil off but i think that the management team at the moment are looking at thier team selection through rose tinted glasses,give this striker a chance,1 goal in 3 games says it all,and the player that scored that was taken off on saturday,

Darwenred1968 · 26-08-2007, 14:10

You shouldn't be asking about or chanting for other players our sensetive manager doesn't like criticsm of His team selections, If we were getting beat 5-0
he would be loathed to change the side! I have been a Stanley fan for 25 years
We are now adopting a very forward way of thinking towards commercialisation of the club pity the squad selection is still in the stoneage!!

Revived Red · 26-08-2007, 15:20

Losing 4 - 0 away at Bristol Rovers last season; team being outplayed and looking demoralised; but, as I recall, no hint of any substitutions.

Oggy · 26-08-2007, 17:35

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Originally Posted by Darwenred1968

We are now adopting a very forward way of thinking towards commercialisation of the club

News to me.

When we lost to Bristol the squad was down to the bones, even Mangan got a start, although not a finish if I recall. (Subs Bains, Murphy, Bell and Smith). Justin Jackson, sacked for not turning up very often for matches, or training.

I'm not averse to anyone having a pop at Coley, he's not infallible, but the reinventing of history is stretching things a bit. Don't think Coley is winning any friends by persisting with Lee, in his present condition, but David Brown is probably the one that should have been playing.

With a few players missing for next week it'll be interesting to see what he does. I'd love to see Dsane start alongside Mullin, but don't want him brought back too soon.

Anyway 3 home games next week, maybe a roof, maybe season tickets, maybe some goals.

ddevil2006 · 26-08-2007, 18:36

justin jackson only made three sub appearences and one was a cup game

cmonstanley · 26-08-2007, 18:39

if we do win the next 2 home league games which i think we might we will be 3 points up on last year. those who dare wins .evil might come good it takes time...on saturday david brown should just behind mullers and dsane up front. second half swap dsane with evil and tell mullers to stay up front not wander into midfield and hold ball up or head to non existant forwards play through the middle penetration in attack .why play on the wings when we havent got any wingers who can zip early crosses in when our strikers are there[when they get there 3hours later]play as a team.theres no point doing brilliant tackles and then losing posession because ther is no one to collect a pass from you.it should be tackle , pass and counter attack none of this stuff walking side ways in midfield

Revived Red · 26-08-2007, 19:39

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Originally Posted by Oggy

the reinventing of history is stretching things a bit

Sorry, Oggy. Not sure that stating a fact is "reinventing history". Yes, the squad was down to bare bones for that game - but those circumstances seemed to me an ideal opportunity to give a couple of youngsters a chance. They could have done no worse. And the number of yellow cards increased rapidly through the game as players' frustration increased. The straight red for Mangan has been discussed ad nauseam - but how calamitous it would have been to lose another player through two yellows. I still feel it would have been wise to use substitutes in that game.

Oggy · 26-08-2007, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Revived Red

I still feel it would have been wise to use substitutes in that game.

Maybe, but, personally don't think it would have been fair on the inexperienced ones, could have had very negative effects on them, plus the game was well lost by that stage. However, I have often wondered about Coley's substitutions in the past, he never ever tightens a game up, for instance. I'm used to that now, it's all or nothing I suppose.

The re-inventing history was more aimed at the attempt to draw a parallel between JJ and Dsane, just can't see that one.

Revived Red · 26-08-2007, 21:31

Fair points, Oggy. Let's hope that everything starts to improve from next Saturday.

Tracker · 27-08-2007, 00:25

de sane was a cracking player in the conference as was jj ,our lot have found that conf players ,have found it ,one step beyond in league 2 .when we were riding high in the conf i and many of the superwhites would have said that there was no difference betweeen conf and league 2 ,we were wrong very wrong .

Thin Monkey · 27-08-2007, 16:14

So far there is absolutely no similarity between Jackson & Dsane.

The former came to us as a sort of "Last Chance Saloon" with his career on the slide. He blew his chance by missing training too often and, if my recollection is correct, eventually just went missing.

Dsane has had an injury from which he is perhaps not fully recovered. As for why he hasn't yet been seen in first team action; anyone who saw him play in the reserves last week will know that he was well off the pace.

That said though, a dustbin would be more effective up front than Evil.