"Save Our Stanley" - Page 33

cashman · 23-09-2009, 07:57

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Originally Posted by Whalley Red

Quite a few people have run with this 'the DON's on holiday' claim, but this is uncorroborated and I certainly wouldn't take solely the word of someone who, in their seven posts to date, has posted little more than anti-DON/pro-Ilyas arguments (as well as claiming to have donated several thousand pounds to the club).

as raggy thun has only been a member since August 2009 n you have been one since August 2004 n only made 14 posts, why should i take your word if yer using that arguement.Raggy seems far more prolific to me.

Doug · 23-09-2009, 08:28

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Originally Posted by Raggy Thun

Also I have nothing against the DON he seems a really good person not sure about this Marcelle Lazarus what has she done??. The only point that I was going on about is there is a lot going on at the club other than getting the money together for the tax man and this should be the boards main aim. I can't get my head round why no one want's Mr Khans money??? has he said he won't work with the DON??? Has he done something I don't know about??? it just seems the way forward to me, but what do I know I have only made a few posts!!!!!!.

I don’t think it’s a case of not wanting Mr. Khan or his money; I sure most of us want both, but in another post Mr. Khan had said that he wanted to offer the money to stave off debt and get the club on an even footing for the future but he didn’t want control or ownership of the club. He did make the statement that he would like Mr. Whalley to part with control of the club in return.

Following on from that statement came the emergence of the ASSF sponsored and initially funded by Mr. Khan again with the proviso that shares were issued giving the ASSF control or at least equality with the existing board.

In my view if control isn’t an issue then don’t make demands in return for funding; If control is an issue then just buy the bloody club or go 50/50 with Mr. O’Neil and end the situation.

Shurm · 23-09-2009, 08:42

Since then Doug he has said whatever the directors collectively put in to the pot he will match with his own money with no strings attached. It was in the Observer 2 weeks ago I think, but why has no one taken him up on this offer ? Seems a no brainer really !!!!

Doug · 23-09-2009, 08:50

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Originally Posted by Shurm

Since then Doug he has said whatever the directors collectively put in to the pot he will match with his own money with no strings attached. It was in the Observer 2 weeks ago I think, but why has no one taken him up on this offer ? Seems a no brainer really !!!!

I totally agree; I would think the club will wait to see just what share of the short fall they’ll have to make; given the work of the Ultras and the generosity of the public and supporters I would think that only £100,000.00 will come from the fund raising effort; again the club seems to have missed out on the opportunity to market the merits of the club and as settled on the begging bowl unless its always been intended to bite Mr. Khan’s hand off at the eleventh hour.

yonmon · 23-09-2009, 09:30

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Originally Posted by Shurm

Since then Doug he has said whatever the directors collectively put in to the pot he will match with his own money with no strings attached. It was in the Observer 2 weeks ago I think, but why has no one taken him up on this offer ? Seems a no brainer really !!!!

Intriguing!..... Mystifying!....Sinister?....Unbelievable!!!....Fri ghtening!!!!....as well as being a 'No Brainer' Shurm!!.

However hard everyone works to do their bit as far as fund-raising goes...this apparently unexplainable Brinkmanship is possibly doing more harm than good to the motivating of future efforts, or else why does every other posting on this thread imply that this is so???.

As reported elsewhere....perhaps it is true that 'The Board' see it as their business alone to Save our Stanley, and that the opinions of we mere mortals are not worth looking at, let alone given any consideration!!.

I repeat.......'QUO VADIS STANLEY ???'

JEFF · 23-09-2009, 10:01

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Originally Posted by Shurm

Since then Doug he has said whatever the directors collectively put in to the pot he will match with his own money with no strings attached. It was in the Observer 2 weeks ago I think, but why has no one taken him up on this offer ? Seems a no brainer really !!!!

DON has already said that he is not going to put any more money into the Club and I don't think the other Directors have much money between them.

Whalley Red · 23-09-2009, 10:35

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Originally Posted by cashman

as raggy thun has only been a member since August 2009 n you have been one since August 2004 n only made 14 posts, why should i take your word if yer using that arguement.Raggy seems far more prolific to me.

Err, I've made 339 posts.

BTW I'm not saying that Raggy Thun is wrong, only that we need to be vigilant against trolls and against deviations from the all-important task of raising funds for the SOS appeal.

There will be plenty of time for anger and recriminations once the future of our Club is secure

Shurm · 23-09-2009, 10:42

I know what you mean when you say you don't think Mr Khans offers don't help with fundraising but I don't think it makes a difference to the hardcore supporters who are actively raising funds to save the club.

If the directors or the Don don't want to put any more money in either by choice or because they don't have any then all I think is that it's a good job Mr Khan is about because it might yet be him who will bail the club out and I'm sure everyone on here will be grateful if he does.

Doug · 23-09-2009, 10:56

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Originally Posted by Shurm

I know what you mean when you say you don't think Mr Khans offers don't help with fundraising but I don't think it makes a difference to the hardcore supporters who are actively raising funds to save the club.

If the directors or the Don don't want to put any more money in either by choice or because they don't have any then all I think is that it's a good job Mr Khan is about because it might yet be him who will bail the club out and I'm sure everyone on here will be grateful if he does.

If Mr. O’Neil or the board do not intend putting any more money into the club or if in deed they don’t have to give they have no right owning the club in the first place; the same goes for Mr. Khan; offering enough to move the club on from the Tax issue won’t be enough for the club to survive; we need meaningful lasting investment as it was in the Whalley Glory days, if Mr. Khan wants to help the club long term then he needs to come up with a realistic take over bid and the club needs to take a long look at the clubs future; if they Khan’t sustain the club day to day, invest in the club as well as promote and market the club effectively, then its time to call it a day and give someone else a chance.

There is a new fundraising statement on the fishy site; it’s more of the same…..everyone one but the club is pulling their collective weight…..

Shurm · 23-09-2009, 11:33

I agree Doug but I remember being a but critical a few weeks ago and got told to be positive and help so I did but it now seems everyone else is now asking and having the same thoughts I did originally.

The club want our help to save it yet they don't really appreciate the efforts on here or the club site. I few columns to say he raised this and she raised that and well done and the new totals now this would not go amiss. Like someone else said they don't think it's our problem or want to tell us much oh nice but you might mind people raising 100k do you !!! Well it is our problem because it's our Town team your messing with and no one wants to see it go bust for a second time !!!

To be honest the club don't deserve all you loyal fans sometimes, you stick by them thick and thin and what involvement or feedback do you get ? Very little I feel it's a one way street. Sorry to go on I appreciate everyones efforts well done the club needs to embrace the community more to progress in the future.

A friend at work who isn't a fan summed it up he said to lose your football club once is unlucky to lose it twice is negligent .....

Raggy Thun · 23-09-2009, 11:36

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Originally Posted by Doug

If Mr. O’Neil or the board do not intend putting any more money into the club or if in deed they don’t have to give they have no right owning the club in the first place; the same goes for Mr. Khan; offering enough to move the club on from the Tax issue won’t be enough for the club to survive; we need meaningful lasting investment as it was in the Whalley Glory days, if Mr. Khan wants to help the club long term then he needs to come up with a realistic take over bid and the club needs to take a long look at the clubs future; if they Khan’t sustain the club day to day, invest in the club as well as promote and market the club effectively, then its time to call it a day and give someone else a chance.

There is a new fundraising statement on the fishy site; it’s more of the same…..everyone one but the club is pulling their collective weight…..

Brilliant Post. Khan't get clearer than that.