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14-10-2009, 21:53
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#692
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
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as it's "at least 12 months" away we could all start saving again and for £250 (+VAT) buy a square yard each - preferably a square yard of Clayton End terrace in my case
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14-10-2009, 22:58
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
pmsl. Leave it well alone I say and spend the money (that we haven't got) on a training ground.
We pay next to nowt on the rent of the ground and its on a massive lease so where's the necessity. What's tangible assets and what influence do they have on investment? collateral?
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14-10-2009, 23:39
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod
pmsl. Leave it well alone I say and spend the money (that we haven't got) on a training ground.
We pay next to nowt on the rent of the ground and its on a massive lease so where's the necessity. What's tangible assets and what influence do they have on investment? collateral?
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to get a bigger loan in 12 months time to cover the current debt?
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14-10-2009, 23:41
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
I could but won't give this appeal any money whatsoever. Set up a supporters trust under the auspices of Supporters Direct and I'll set up a direct debit and give a lump sum.
I'm not bailing out people who have failed the club
Last edited by DevonStanley; 14-10-2009 at 23:42.
Reason: an addition
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15-10-2009, 08:38
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
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Originally Posted by DevonStanley
I could but won't give this appeal any money whatsoever. Set up a supporters trust under the auspices of Supporters Direct and I'll set up a direct debit and give a lump sum.
I'm not bailing out people who have failed the club
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Who has failed the club? In this respect I must support D'oN for taking on the task and asking for help from the supporters and surrounding football clubs etc. He took over this burden from the previous regime and although he did it eyes wide open, the club board initially thought they had an arrangement with HMRC to pay back the debt at £18k a month over 12 months. HMRC reneged on that deal and said we had till end of this month to find all the money. Dave O'Neill may have been a little naive when in all truthfulness he knew what he was getting into when he allegedly bought out EW.
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15-10-2009, 09:55
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
Can't help thinking that this save the Stanley will be having a lot of effect on the true supporters, Home league last Saturday, home to Rovers Tuesday,Home again tonight another friendly, then home again in the league on Saturday again, must be costing you lads and lasses a small fortune, what with ticket money travel then of course the refreshments, must be costing a mint
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15-10-2009, 10:03
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
And home again next Tuesday as well it's still better than NO FOOTBALL.
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15-10-2009, 10:11
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
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Originally Posted by DevonStanley
I could but won't give this appeal any money whatsoever. Set up a supporters trust under the auspices of Supporters Direct and I'll set up a direct debit and give a lump sum.
I'm not bailing out people who have failed the club
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You should have joined the ASSF..you attitude has already failed, thanks for your contribution, now leave it to the Big Boys!
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15-10-2009, 10:14
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
One day they're talking about buying the ground, the next day they're talking about selling players! They really do need to start taking a co-ordinated approach to handling the media.
Accrington Stanley may sell players (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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15-10-2009, 10:50
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
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Although it's hard not to agree with what he's saying they should put a media gag on JB.
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15-10-2009, 12:54
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy
Who has failed the club? In this respect I must support D'oN for taking on the task and asking for help from the supporters and surrounding football clubs etc. He took over this burden from the previous regime and although he did it eyes wide open, the club board initially thought they had an arrangement with HMRC to pay back the debt at £18k a month over 12 months. HMRC reneged on that deal and said we had till end of this month to find all the money. Dave O'Neill may have been a little naive when in all truthfulness he knew what he was getting into when he allegedly bought out EW.
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WOW
I cant believe anyone could come to that conclusion.
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15-10-2009, 13:27
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
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HMRC reneged on that deal
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Sorry, OO, but that's not really true as the DON has made clear. There never was a deal. Look at the DON's statement at the foot of the SOS website.
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15-10-2009, 19:07
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Re: "Save Our Stanley"
I'm only thinking aloud, so please don't attack me!
So what started this mad thinking? Well, I've become increasingly concerned by the failure to update the SOS total. There might be a perfectly good reason for it, but on the other hand ......
Now let's divert to the debt to HMRC. The statements emanating from the club remain vague - and maybe they have to be. But there seems to be a sort of consensus that the SOS Fund will reach £150,000; the powers-that-be (all/some) will put in £100,000 and the remainder will be borrowed as a short-term loan.
I still have serious worries here. Will the SOS Fund actually reach £150,000? Will the powers-that-be need to put in more than £100,000? And let's not forget that we have been told that at least one of them had no more money to put in. So, in my mind, it's starting to look as though we may have to borrow more than £58,000. A short-term loan is exactly that - so it has to be paid back relatively quickly. Where will we find £58,000 (in my thinking, considerably more) to pay back quickly?
Well, has Jimmy Bell given us the answer? Is this the scenario? We borrow maybe up to £100,000 to ensure that HMRC is paid and the borrowed money is repaid after the sale of players in January.
So that's my present thinking.
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