Shrewsbury Town match thread - Page 2

SamF · 29-08-2009, 17:13

Got to disagree with ya on one point there shaker I thought Symes was the best man in a red shirt today - always challenging for the arial balls and unlike mullin he was directing them to a red shirt - it's just a shame that red shirt was McConville. McConville is a good player but he's still young and he's not a striker so why he got the start up front instead of Mullin, Kee and King god only knows. Proccy was utterly useless today once again Coley changed the whole formation of the team and played men out of position just to accomodate him. We should be playing a 4-4-2
Martin
Richardson/King, Edwards, Kempson, Winnard
Turner/Grant, Ryan, Joyce, Miles
Symes, Kee/Mullin

As for the penalty decision I think fair enough it was a foul, a soft one but a foul none the less - the thing is if your going to give penalties for fouls like that you have to be consistant and not 5 minutes after their penalty Proccy was given the exact same treatment and nothing was given - same again 10 minutes later. As for the shrews second goal the ref and linesman once again awful - foul on Martin all the way whistle should have gone the second the ball was kicked.

On the upside that's 2 in 2 for Symes - it looks like we have a striker who can score goals

shakermaker · 29-08-2009, 17:23

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Originally Posted by SamF

Got to disagree with ya on one point there shaker I thought Symes was the best man in a red shirt today - always challenging for the arial balls and unlike mullin he was directing them to a red shirt - it's just a shame that red shirt was McConville.

Not completely knocking Symes as he did have quite a good game. As I said in the first post I thought he took his goal well. His distribution was terrible though; hardly any of the balls he won were successfully passed on to bring in the creative midfield. Obviously the midfield were all at sixes and sevens today so it'd be silly to write him off. I just hope Coley can help Michael with that part of his game.

harwood red · 29-08-2009, 17:34

Have to say I was on the Clayton end and to me and many around me it was a stone wall penalty... winnard was practically climbing up back of him for a piggy back!!!

Although thought we had a good shout for a penalty in second half but not so clear cut... ref was very inconsistent for the whole match

Not the best of performances today but not too disheartening despite the final score...

but same question asked again.... what does Chris Turner have to do to get a game?????

RED FLAG 9 · 29-08-2009, 17:42

Totally astonished Turner hasn't had a start yet this season. He's come on twice as sub for 10 mins each time. He was fantastic back end of last season. Showed lots of good touches and is a great crosser of the ball. Is he injured?

Tommy McQueen · 29-08-2009, 17:46

Yes it defo was a penalty, Worse I've seen Stanley play. Why Coleman will not give C Turner a start I'll never know.proctor should never be Captain either, he is taking up a midfield position where others could be better utilised. If we get beaten next Sat I fear for the rest of the season. If this is his strongest squad I hope they soon start to show it, or I have a sinking feeling that with no money and inability to bring in players we could be in for a rough ride.

VALAIRIAN · 29-08-2009, 18:03

The Referees decision to award a penalty was the worst I have witnessed for a long time.
Its the same old story though, we keep leaking goals. We must start picking up points or its the blue square. I know its early days but it was a dissapionting result

the ref n penalty a complete joke. nevertheless should be taking 3 pts at home to the shrewsburys of this division, gonna be long hard winter.

Sorry, but from where I was standing in the Clayton End (And from somebody sitting in the main stand) it was nailed on

Winnard had both hands on him, almost round his neck, no need for it, but no complaints. We got what we deserved today and that is worrying

VALAIRIAN · 29-08-2009, 18:12

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Originally Posted by harwood red

Have to say I was on the Clayton end and to me and many around me it was a stone wall penalty... winnard was practically climbing up back of him for a piggy back!!!
Although thought we had a good shout for a penalty in second half but not so clear cut... ref was very inconsistent for the whole match

Not the best of performances today but not too disheartening despite the final score...

but same question asked again.... what does Chris Turner have to do to get a game?????

With you all the way on that Harwood, Chris Turner ?? Looks like he will not get a start until 3 or 4 of the midfielders are injured......

Oldgobbin · 29-08-2009, 18:48

Really not at all sure what to think about today. Starting with 3-5-2 seems a bit odd, but then moving Joyce back to full back takes some of the spark out of midfield. As someone else rightly says, why keep on playing people out of position.... to accommodate Proccy? Let's face it, if he's not good enough, he shouldn't be in the team. The penalty? Yes, I thought it was definitely a foul, but Winnard was fouled first and the ref ignored that!

I thought the Symes-Kee partnership looked promising in the second half, but we've been advocating giving that pairing a go on here since the start of the season. McConville will improve, though I'm not sure that Grant will! Surely Turner is worth a try.

Finally - and here is my likely controversial bit..... I remain unconvinced that Martin is the answer to our goalkeeping problems. He makes some super saves but, like my friend Dunsavin, he does not show positive command of his area and therefore does not inspire his defence with confidence.

Maybe time will tell .. I only hope we don't get dragged into the relegation mire before the season has even got off the ground!

Kiwi John · 29-08-2009, 18:52

Oh dear,,,this is not great news,,, like many others I thought we had the makings of a team to be in the top half of the table.
I shall have to cease investing money at our TAB on them, that should help.

MCR ADIM · 29-08-2009, 18:57

Martin is still young though so in time he will inprove with a goalkeeping coach etc.
Same with Grant only young and he works hard, puts the effort in would start every game for me, I'd like Turner to start, but Coley knows his talent and waiting for the right moment to unlish his talent on the pitch, than he will set league 2 on fire. Symes did well again glad he got the start took his goal well. Thats a positive a striker got a goal. Smae mistakes really once we iron them out, will have a good team, i beilive we have the makings of a great team just got to wait till they gel together and will move up that table with ease.

Haggis316 · 29-08-2009, 19:39

Defensively I have noticed a vulnerability on the flanks and a tendency to be a bit jittery when under pressure in front of our goal from what I have seen pre season and this season.

There has also been a tendency not to convert good chances.

I fear this is similar to other seasons I have known in football with my other league club where a few flaws become apparent early on and cause an optimistic beginning to become a not always successful season long fight against relegation. Its the "not always successful" bit that particularly worries me.

JEFF · 29-08-2009, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Oldgobbin

The penalty? Yes, I thought it was definitely a foul, but Winnard was fouled first and the ref ignored that!

Totally agree, Winnard was fouled first, should have been a free kick to Stanley

shakermaker · 29-08-2009, 20:42

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Originally Posted by MikeA

OK, let's start it but not the best time as we've just conceded a goal from what BBC Shropshire say was a 'needless' penalty.

Can't get onto 2BR but Tretts is assisting with the BBC Shropshire commentary.

Didn't happen to say when he'll be back in training did he? Two weeks last I heard

cashman · 29-08-2009, 21:19

this will P. a few off but fer me whilst i admire the signings coleman makes n how he gets em given resources is beyond me, the guy is "Tactically Bankrupt" players should be in there best positions, timing of substitutions overall are pathetic.

yonmon · 29-08-2009, 22:35

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

Dan and Ben had the penalty as a definite and they called it as teh ref blew. Winnard was blatantly pulling the guys shirt. It was probably not visible to the Clayton End but it was visible to the ref unfortunately.

It WAS a penalty Macca..and, as everyone noted, the Stanley Defenders didn't make much of a complaint to Jon Moss about his decision !.
Much more worrying was the amount of time the ball spent soaring through the air from 'Red' Boots....and in no particular direction at that !...and of course once 'the Shrews'...or should it read 'the Shrewds'...realised this fact and played the game at ground level, it was clear that there was only one team going to win the match !!.
Still the chances were there, Michael Symes took his goal well..the Goalpost kept Bobby Grant's shot out... so am I still wearing my Red-tinted glasses when I suggest that there is more to be hopeful about than to be over-concerned about ?.

'What me Worry?'.....Not just yet !!...'ON STANLEY !..ON !.

p.s I noted 'Oldgobbin' furtively leaving the ground three minutes before the final whistle !!.....A FIRST ???.