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JEFF · 07-08-2009, 11:41

Cavanagh may stay even if found guilty

Cavanagh may stay at Accrington Stanley if guilty (From This Is Lancashire)

AccyMad · 07-08-2009, 12:31

Bavs & Bobby both given 18 week prison sentences suspended for 12 months & 150 hours community service - how can they be guilty when Gerrard was proclaimed innocent??

cashman · 07-08-2009, 12:33

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Originally Posted by JEFF

Cavanagh may stay even if found guilty

Cavanagh may stay at Accrington Stanley if guilty (From This Is Lancashire)

i read that, aint acceptable to me if that happens, very slippery slope to go down.

dabeast · 07-08-2009, 12:35

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Originally Posted by AccyMad

Bavs & Bobby both given 18 week prison sentences suspended for 12 months & 150 hours community service - how can they be guilty when Gerrard was proclaimed innocent??

Because they pleaded guilty

AccyMad · 07-08-2009, 13:12

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Originally Posted by dabeast

Because they pleaded guilty

Yes, I know they did - and rightly so - but still think they have taken the rap for Steven Gerrard because he had the expensive lawyers who were able to get him off the charge. They were all involved and should all have been treated equally.

Bagpuss · 07-08-2009, 13:19

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Originally Posted by AccyMad

Yes, I know they did - and rightly so - but still think they have taken the rap for Steven Gerrard because he had the expensive lawyers who were able to get him off the charge. They were all involved and should all have been treated equally.

No, Gerrard pleaded NOT GUILTY, was tried and found NOT GUILTY, if the others had done the same they might have been found NOT GUILTY.

cashman · 07-08-2009, 13:31

guilty or not it was not the incident shown on cctv on telly it was for an incident wi the guy just after, so if ya plead guilty wi no film evidence that makes ya a dummy in my eyes.

AccyMad · 07-08-2009, 13:34

No need to put some words in capitals - I'm not stupid, I know Gerrard pleaded not guilty. What I meant was they should all (including Gerrard) have made the same plea - as it showed in the cctv footage that they were all involved - and all been treated the same.

Bagpuss · 07-08-2009, 13:35

Nobody on accyweb was at court and heard all the evidence, we don't know if there were witnesses who were not needed that could have given evidence against the two Stanley lads.

Bagpuss · 07-08-2009, 13:39

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Originally Posted by AccyMad

No need to put some words in capitals - I'm not stupid, I know Gerrard pleaded not guilty. What I meant was they should all (including Gerrard) have made the same plea - as it showed in the cctv footage that they were all involved - and all been treated the same.

Sorry for the capitals but some people don't listen, not you.
For the record there was more than one incident and not all involved Gerrard.

Nickelson · 07-08-2009, 13:52

If everyone pleaded not guilty do you think that Gerrard would have got away scott free?

Obviously bunged them a couple of notes to plead guilty.

cashman · 07-08-2009, 14:49

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Nobody on accyweb was at court and heard all the evidence, we don't know if there were witnesses who were not needed that could have given evidence against the two Stanley lads.

irrelevant baggy witnesses can be discredited in some cases, which then helps the defendant. ya gotta be in it to win it. shoulda pleaded not guilty.

shakermaker · 07-08-2009, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

No, Gerrard pleaded NOT GUILTY, was tried and found NOT GUILTY, if the others had done the same they might have been found NOT GUILTY.

Is that just to you?

dabeast · 07-08-2009, 18:38

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Is that just to you?

It is not at all just to me, but thats why lawyers make money......

.....as others have said we weren't there but we all saw the video of Gerrard.....and we will all have our own opinion on guilt or otherwise

What we can't say is what Bavs and Bobby did or didn't do. I would add that at least they did have the balls to hold their hands up and say yes I did it (whatever their reasons for doing so). They have been punished accordingly (??harshly??) for being 'in the public eye'.

cashman · 07-08-2009, 18:47

i don't think its harsh dabeast, i think its just about right, theres decent folk in bars when these things kick off n things like that ruin the night fer some, don't think a custodial would have been fair, but a "Bender" says if ya kick off again ya get bounced.