Sky news players charged bury game - Page 40

shakermaker · 08-08-2009, 15:16

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Originally Posted by cashman

to say ya can't enjoy todays game cos of it is nuts.

Only saying it as it is for me cashy. Can't pretend to be happy about any part of the situation.

It's a ridiculous state of affairs. Too often people use this statement about the injustices against lower league teams but it's more than apt here; this really wouldn't happen to any molly coddled Premier League team.

cashman · 08-08-2009, 15:42

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Only saying it as it is for me cashy. Can't pretend to be happy about any part of the situation.

It's a ridiculous state of affairs. Too often people use this statement about the injustices against lower league teams but it's more than apt here; this really wouldn't happen to any molly coddled Premier League team.

the whole thing as been a mess shaker n an insult to the paying public as well as the club, i'm happy its now at last been dealt with. and certainly happy the season is underway n stanley are equipping themselves pretty well so far.

shakermaker · 08-08-2009, 15:50

Of course, but nobody knows how it's been 'dealt with'. Not even the manager knows if he's able to play Cav and the farcical start to the season that the FA have granted us can only be met with contempt.
Having Cav's hearing the day before the season starts was ridiculous. The fact that the club have received no notification of the results of the hearing is completely unfair on everyone; the club, the fans and Cav himself. The idiotic state of affairs is proponed further by the newspaper rumours. It all stinks.

Redraine · 08-08-2009, 16:31

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Of course, but nobody knows how it's been 'dealt with'. Not even the manager knows if he's able to play Cav and the farcical start to the season that the FA have granted us can only be met with contempt.
Having Cav's hearing the day before the season starts was ridiculous. The fact that the club have received no notification of the results of the hearing is completely unfair on everyone; the club, the fans and Cav himself. The idiotic state of affairs is proponed further by the newspaper rumours. It all stinks.

Cav should have been suspended by the club- simple as. To blame anyone for "the farcical start to the season" other than the idiots who made the bets is simply ridiculous.

shakermaker · 08-08-2009, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Redraine

Cav should have been suspended by the club- simple as.

What has the club's choice not to suspend the players got to do with a price of fish?

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Originally Posted by Redraine

To blame anyone for "the farcical start to the season" other than the idiots who made the bets is simply ridiculous.

It took the FA long enough to bring the charges to the players, they should have endeavoured to minimise the effect on our innocent club. The organisation is supposed to be about fair play, after all. The FA have handed out a serious disadvantage to Accrington Stanley, when the club has done nothing wrong.

cashman · 08-08-2009, 17:39

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

What has the club's choice not to suspend the players got to do with a price of fish?

It took the FA long enough to bring the charges to the players, they should have endeavoured to minimise the effect on our innocent club. The organisation is supposed to be about fair play, after all. The FA have handed out a serious disadvantage to Accrington Stanley, when the club has done nothing wrong.

no one will dispute that the F.A. has been lax in dealing with it, but yer completly missing the point to me, it would NOT have been in the F.A.s hands if those who many had faith in had NOT betrayed club n fans by betting on those who paid em to lose.

blaming others fer their actions is ludicrous.

shakermaker · 08-08-2009, 17:51

Cashy you obviously think I'm pretty dense. I know that this situation wouldn't be apparent if not for Rocky & Co.'s actions.
However the subsequent effect on the club (which is as important as any part of this saga) has been made even worse by the ridiculous amount of inaction by the FA and it sickens me.

Jimbo T Hornblower · 08-08-2009, 17:57

I take it Cav n Rocky couldnt get hold of Gerrards legal team?

I think you can take it as read shaker that unfortunately our club capitan is away down the same 'Rocky' road (See what I did there?)

I see your point about the FA though - perhaps they dont work at weekends???

Jimbo T

blower

shakermaker · 08-08-2009, 18:10

Aye that'll be it! As far as I'm concerned Jimbo, Cav is still our captain and until there's official word from the FA I'm in complete denial of this punishment rumour.

Obtuse as it may seem I can't accept that Cav is guilty. The proclamation of innocence, the way he came back to the club and played well in pre-season... Rocky didn't return to the club did he? That to me speaks volumes about Cav's situation.

As I said earlier in this thread, it's silly to think we know the players after seeing them play football. However I'm adamant that Cav wouldn't have the brass neck to profess innocence, return to the club and try to cheat the FA.

Jimbo T Hornblower · 08-08-2009, 18:17

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Aye that'll be it! As far as I'm concerned Jimbo, Cav is still our captain and until there's official word from the FA I'm in complete denial of this punishment rumour.

Obtuse as it may seem I can't accept that Cav is guilty. The proclamation of innocence, the way he came back to the club and played well in pre-season... Rocky didn't return to the club did he? That to me speaks volumes about Cav's situation.

As I said earlier in this thread, it's silly to think we know the players after seeing them play football. However I'm adamant that Cav wouldn't have the brass neck to profess innocence, return to the club and try to cheat the FA.

Well said. Let me throw this into the mix.
If Cav was found not guilty, surely it would mean severe repercussions for ANY paper to publish a guilty verdict on such a matter? Well surely speculation by the press on any legal verdict is not good? WIDE open for sueing and libel. To print whatever they print once the verdict is made is up to them of course. My point being why would a paper publish a guilty verdict if the outcome wasnt so?? Just so the defendant can go and sue them?? I know the press are scum but I doubt they would be so stupid as to publish a wrong verdict?? Shakes - I hope I am so wrong its untrue and if I am I will apologise in person to you and Cav in December when I am over next for jumping on the 'guilty giuilty pointy finger' bandwagon but.....

Jimbo T

blower

shakermaker · 08-08-2009, 18:37

I don't know Jimbo. Any guess at where the the papers got their story from or why they decided to run it without an official statement to back it up would only be conjecture. I'm just hoping like you that it's rubbish.

VALAIRIAN · 08-08-2009, 19:43

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Originally Posted by cashman

just been on 2br, club cannot give statement until official notification from F.A. all they have is media report at the moment, shaker its time to draw a line under this crap, to say ya can't enjoy todays game cos of it is nuts, i can enjoy it better knowing those who made bets have been dealt with.

Put it like it is Cashy

If they have been found guilty, then they have been found guilty, like it or not - I am gutted for Cav, but facts are facts - like Cashy, TM and others have said ....... lets move on, the most important thing in all of this Betting, Stevie G, Taxman stuff is STANLEY...

ON STANLEY ON

Haggis316 · 08-08-2009, 19:51

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Originally Posted by Redraine

Cav should have been suspended by the club- simple as.

As a matter of employment law you might be right.

However I support the Club's decision. He must have been in mental turmoil and under great pressure yet he played a major part in the run that led from the Macclesfield win to clinching safety at Cleethorpes.

madkev · 08-08-2009, 20:35

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Originally Posted by Haggis316

As a matter of employment law you might be right.

However I support the Club's decision. He must have been in mental turmoil and under great pressure yet he played a major part in the run that led from the Macclesfield win to clinching safety at Cleethorpes.

Any man who can guide you to safety in cleethorpes is worth a go in my book

cashman · 08-08-2009, 21:27

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Cashy you obviously think I'm pretty dense. I know that this situation wouldn't be apparent if not for Rocky & Co.'s actions.
However the subsequent effect on the club (which is as important as any part of this saga) has been made even worse by the ridiculous amount of inaction by the FA and it sickens me.

no shaker i do not regard ya as dense, think yer probably blinded or misguided on this but sure not dense.