SOS (Save Our Stanley!) - Page 3

Doug · 01-09-2007, 21:20

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Originally Posted by Pendle Red

Reading through all the posts the one thing that comes across is the affinity for the club!
There are positives as some people have pointed out:
We probably do have the strongest squad we have had for many a year!
The roof is on!
Things are moving in a positive way off the field with the leasing of the Crown!
Best corperate facilities the Club has ever had!
The most amazing and passionate fans you could ever wish to meet!
The Club has given me something back that money can't buy and that is a sense of belonging, being able to take my family and friends along and becoming involved in whatever small way to help the club whether that is by buying a season ticket, football shirt, having a pint at the Crown, buying a 50/50 ticket it is now in blood and I will do whatever small part I can to ensure the club carries on moving forward!

A lot of positives there, It's good to talk up the club. Faith builds, pass us a few more bricks.....

Lilly · 01-09-2007, 21:24

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Originally Posted by DAV007

it must really upset Eric that the council dont invest in the club.
The Wirral council are Tranmeres main sponsor!

At Wycombe, all overthe town centre where banners and signs saying 'your town, your club - with a list of up and coming fixtures'.

Hydburn council should do a similar gesture.

What is the council? labour? lid dem? tory?

you should go and see your councillors and give them hell.

I don't think that the council should invest in Accy Stanley. I've got nothing against the club I just think that a lot of people would complain if the council did give money to any cause that not everybody has an interest in. It was the same with St John's church facing closure, some people said that the council should give money to keep it open but why should they? Individual cases like these are down to the people of the town to support and uphold, not the council.

Doug · 01-09-2007, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Lilly

I don't think that the council should invest in Accy Stanley. I've got nothing against the club I just think that a lot of people would complain if the council did give money to any cause that not everybody has an interest in. It was the same with St John's church facing closure, some people said that the council should give money to keep it open but why should they? Individual cases like these are down to the people of the town to support and uphold, not the council.

The case for St John's would be a matter of Christianity being a State Religon and for the club and sport in general the council should consider the case of civic pride and promote the team as a centre of sporting excellence for the whole of the town. When both have gone, you can't replace them.

Bagpuss · 01-09-2007, 21:35

It's only a matter of time before somebody posts what a few have hinted at.

Lilly · 01-09-2007, 21:43

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Originally Posted by Doug

The case for St John's would be a matter of Christianity being a State Religon and for the club and sport in general the council should consider the case of civic pride and promote the team as a centre of sporting excellence for the whole of the town. When both have gone, you can't replace them.

Like I said, I have absolutely nothing against Accy Stanley and agree that promoting the club around town would be a good idea. My only beef is with the idea of the council investing large sums of money in one particular venture. I think it would get a lot if people's backs up if they did. The council hasn't got the money to give to individual cases so it's better for them not to get financially involved with any particular case.

Wynonie Harris · 01-09-2007, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Doug

I'm with you all the way on the subject matter, just trying to see how it could be brought about with the current climate.

OK, suppose Eric did sell the club to a major investor. And supposing that investor had the resources and ingenuity to market the club in a new and exciting way to broaden its appeal to the public at large. Doug, you've already cited the example of Morecambe as a smalltown club who've come into the league and caught the imagination of the townspeople. Imagine how Stanley could do that even more effectively with the financial clout that a large investor would bring.

It'd certainly be preferable to the present small crowds=low budget=poor wages=mediocre performances=small crowds vicious circle which will surely lead us back to the conference.

KarenFaz · 01-09-2007, 22:30

The difference between Morecambe and us, just like Carlisle, is that they have a niche group of fans who other than Preston, have no other club to support nearby!!

Stanley like you say are in an area of England that probably has the biggest number of teams per square mile outside of London to compete with who are in higher Leagues!! That's logically where the problem lies.

Karen x

John_Timmins · 02-09-2007, 02:17

plus the fact the club seems to want to push away the true fans at any opportunity, 20 suits in the clubhouse today, compare that with say the 200 they could have had in by keeping it to the fans.

maccawozzagod · 02-09-2007, 13:15

If we didn't have the Crown then giving up the clubhouse would have caused a riot. But 20 suits paying £50 (upwards) each is a £1000 that the bar never used to make, on top of any match day profit from the Crown.

AccyMad · 02-09-2007, 15:41

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Originally Posted by Doug

Early days but I’ll say it again, look at Morecombe. What are they doing that we’ve missed? The town’s behind them, their playing well, money is going into the club, the supporters are ecstatic, what are we missing?

To be fair Doug, there isn't another decent football club for miles around Morecambe so they can attract bigger crowds and yes they're doing well, I put it down to the first season in the league syndrome in that they're still running on the adrenaline from their promotion and good luck to them - even if they were voted in a recent poll as the supporters who have the most unrealistic hopes for their club

Haggis316 · 02-09-2007, 16:08

Eric is not saying that the club is about to fold. When he talked about the Unibond League he was talking about the season ticket sales - not the club's finances. I gather that the club's finances remain in good shape and much better than most. I should think any one press or otherwise who might harm the club's commercial reputation by suggesting the contrary ought to watch what they say.

The club could do with outside investment if its to climb the leagues that's all Eric was saying.

Tin Monkey · 02-09-2007, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Haggis316

The club could do with outside investment if its to climb the leagues that's all Eric was saying.

Well, that's one interpretation. Many have interpreted what he said in a different way. Perhaps he should say what he really means, rather than leaving it open to interpretation?

I'm also glad that you seem to know that the club is in a good financial state. As an investor in the club, I wouldn't have any idea.

Wynonie Harris · 02-09-2007, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Haggis316

The club could do with outside investment if its to climb the leagues that's all Eric was saying.

It's not all he was saying at all. I quote, "Our average crowd last season was 2,200 but we need at least 2,500 to break even this year." After two home games against two of the better supported sides in the league, our average gate is around 1,600. Admittedly, we still have the big local derbies to come, but we also have matches against distant, poorly supported sides like Barnet and Dagenham. Which means that as things stand, we could well be way, way off the break-even figure. And don't forget, there's the little matter of a 1,000-seater stand to be built by the end of next season. As Eric has said, we'll receive funding for around half of that, but we'll still have to find the money for the other half. As the new roof cost, £200,000, I would imagine an all-seater stand will cost considerably more. So we'll either have to go into debt or slash the money from Coley's playing budget with dire consequences for the team.

Haggis316 · 02-09-2007, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

Well, that's one interpretation. Many have interpreted what he said in a different way. Perhaps he should say what he really means, rather than leaving it open to interpretation?

I'm also glad that you seem to know that the club is in a good financial state. As an investor in the club, I wouldn't have any idea.

I have no personal knowledge apart from what I have been told by someone well placed to know what he is talking about.

Darwenred1968 · 02-09-2007, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Doug

My last visit was Saturday last. I saw Three Burnley Shirts, two Rovers, four Liverpool, a **** load of MU and not one Stanley shirt.

Football is a form of street fashion, maybe we should get ourselves a cool looking shirt......of course I exclude Burnley and Rovers from that statement...

If the shirts were a more reasonable price instead of the extortionate £40 then you would see more of them don't forget these shirts are changed every year and on top of £300+ season ticket prices then its a struggle to buy everything else also maybe next year if we aren't GONE as we are lead to believe give all season ticket holders a free home shirt then there would be at least 120 knocking around the streets of Hyndburn.