Stanley steward today - Page 2

keyco · 04-03-2007, 13:11

i am big al's son and i wasnt ashamed of my dad of just the actions of the fans against him he wasnt trying to get any one in any bother at all he was trying to keep us fans out of trouble a lot more fans could have been thrown out but they hadnt been due to the actions of my dad and the reason why i was annoyed is because i was clearly told by one of the head stewards at rochdale to **********!!! when i was trying to sort something out so dont put words in my mouth
the match yesturday was a great match but we did let the club down and thats the big factor of the match all the publicity we have had is good and this could affect our good nature with stewards at other grounds as all clubs share info. so this could mean we will be watched more closly and not enjoy the freedom to support the club as before

Yet again I have to edit a post due to people not following some simple instructions. Do not try to circumvent the swear filter. Please read the T&Cs and the post concerning swearing on the main forum. Thanks - Z

Bagpuss · 04-03-2007, 13:24

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Originally Posted by keyco

and not enjoy the freedom to support the club as before

What freedom, even our own stewards are acting like little hitlers at home games, calm down we are not idiots or babies.

shakermaker · 04-03-2007, 13:28

Well said Big Al.
The atmosphere was outstanding yesterday, full credit to everyone for that, especially Macca & Rossendale Transport for getting us all there and the Ultras for the noise & colours.
People were ejected and with that comes bad reputation, fines for the club etc etc. Let's keep our great reputation as travelling fans & not give grief to the people trying to help. This league is saturated with idiot 'fans' already.

nadsw2002 · 04-03-2007, 14:18

OK my apologies for calling you an idiot, I just think that as a paying fan you were under no obligation to do that, I appreciate that you were protecting the reputation of the club but it seems that it caused more trouble than it was worth and to be honest you couldn't have picked a worse time 3-0 down at half time, people werent exactly in high spirits! The lads get told to sit down everywhere they go, Stockport County, Darlo last week are just 2 examples, and they never do but i've never seen anything like that yesterday. I think it was more a case of the Rochdale stewards acting the 'big men' and picking on young lads, after all if 1 person gets thrown out for standing up shouldn't everyone? 100+ where still standing when Manghan scored yet a small minority get thrown out at half time?? I thought the fans were brilliant yesterday, the atmosphere was great and even after going down 3-0 they kept on going. I think it's more a case of the rochdale stewards getting a bad reputation, not the Accy Stanley fans!

yerself · 04-03-2007, 15:49

I'm just beginning to get my head round the rules regarding seating in football stadiums. They apply to everyone except Stanley Ultras. I had to move seat twice because my son couldn't see the game thanks to the clowns who wouldn't sit down. When I was getting a brew at half-time I overheard someone telling a GM Police Inspector that this was the worst bunch of away supporters they'd had all season.

keyco · 04-03-2007, 18:23

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Originally Posted by nadsw2002

OK my apologies for calling you an idiot, I just think that as a paying fan you were under no obligation to do that, I appreciate that you were protecting the reputation of the club but it seems that it caused more trouble than it was worth !

Wrong, I was under an obligation as the club had asked me to assist if there was to be any trouble with our own fans. I put my knowledge of our fans on the line before the game by giving the Rochdale stewards my personal opinion that our fans do not cause trouble. How wrong I was when mature people cannot accept responsibility for their-repeat their own actions & have to shift the blame onto those trying to help. The trouble was from their own hands & my conscience is clear. I will not be drawn any further on this one. Big Al on Keyco's site.
Moderator: I think it is time this one was put to bed

nadsw2002 · 04-03-2007, 18:39

Like I said I appreciate that you were only doing it for the clubs interest and I wasn't having a go, fair play to you for doing it (And taking all the grief thats come of it) I just didnt think you were under obligation, ok the club asked you but should you have had to pay like all the other visiting fans? Should they not have paid you? Or if was a 'favour' then you werent under obligation! Get my point?
Anyway all i'm saying is how come it's never happened before at other away games?
To be fair I was having more of a pop at the rochdale stewards and not yourself!
Like you say lets put it to bed and concentrate on 3 points on Tuesday!

loweiy · 04-03-2007, 19:28

we just want to stand up!!

as for stewards well what can I say.....good luck!

loweiy

cmonstanley · 04-03-2007, 19:39

so whats happens if your disabled and cant sit down for more than ten minutes .that means your discriminating

if it was up to me i would bring terracing back if i wanted to go to the pictures i would go to the pictures and before anybody has a pop terracing never caused hillsborough it was the police and the fences just like always treating the passionate football fan like scum it feels like were living under facist regime .its alright to mug oaps and geta slap on your wrist but god forbid to stand up at football groundwhat a farce. the staduims arent really designed for football are they .they knew people stood together had a laugh and things so why design them the way they are they might look good from a distance but once you get in them they are not spectator friendly

cmonstanley · 04-03-2007, 19:43

oh nearly forgot no other paying customer gets treated like us

Bazf · 04-03-2007, 19:56

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OK my apologies for calling you an idiot, I just think that as a paying fan you were under no obligation to do that, I appreciate that you were protecting the reputation of the club but it seems that it caused more trouble than it was worth and to be honest you couldn't have picked a worse time 3-0 down at half time, people werent exactly in high spirits! The lads get told to sit down everywhere they go, Stockport County, Darlo last week are just 2 examples, and they never do but i've never seen anything like that yesterday. I think it was more a case of the Rochdale stewards acting the 'big men' and picking on young lads, after all if 1 person gets thrown out for standing up shouldn't everyone? 100+ where still standing when Manghan scored yet a small minority get thrown out at half time?? I thought the fans were brilliant yesterday, the atmosphere was great and even after going down 3-0 they kept on going. I think it's more a case of the rochdale stewards getting a bad reputation, not the Accy Stanley fans!

I am guessing an age group of maybe 15/16 or younger? Like was said earlier follow the rules they were made because a higher authority ordained it. If you are told by an authority figure to do something and you don't then you know thats there is always a consequence, they tend to teach that from an early age, yesterday you got the consequence, learn from it and don't start ragging on someone trying to help you. After reading your first post on this topic you should be giving Big Al an apology not slating him. As for stewards getting a bad rep, it will never happen, it will be all Accrington supporters who will be tarred with the same brush and persucuted against where ever they go, do you think all Millwall fans fight?

nadsw2002 · 04-03-2007, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Bazf

I am guessing an age group of maybe 15/16 or younger? Like was said earlier follow the rules they were made because a higher authority ordained it. If you are told by an authority figure to do something and you don't then you know thats there is always a consequence, they tend to teach that from an early age, yesterday you got the consequence, learn from it and don't start ragging on someone trying to help you. After reading your first post on this topic you should be giving Big Al an apology not slating him. As for stewards getting a bad rep, it will never happen, it will be all Accrington supporters who will be tarred with the same brush and persucuted against where ever they go, do you think all Millwall fans fight?

I am 26, female and if you read my first posting I said i sat down at the front I didn't stand, shout, swear or abuse anyone, so therefore you'll be glad to hear that I did actually 'follow the rules!' The only thing I was told by an 'authority figure' was where the toilets where! I was simply putting my point accross like everyone else on this thread.
If you read my second posting you will see that I actual did apologise to Big Al for slating him once I'd read his reply, and finally if you read my 3rd post I made it clear to him that is was the Rochdale stewards I was having a pop at and not him and that I appreciated what he had done yesterday!
So to sum it all up:
I'm 26
I did as I was told
i didn't rag on someone who was trying to help me
and I wasnt told off by an authority figure!!
Just putting my point accross!

nadsw2002 · 04-03-2007, 20:12

Eh? You acually quote my apology then tell me i should be apologising!

Bazf · 04-03-2007, 20:14

Sorry I quoted the wrong post, It was supposed to be the first one.

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I got pulled today because a stanley steward was at the bottom of the stand pointing at us. he was helping the dale stewards. A few accy boys had a go at him for what he was doing and we sang songs at him. I hope he can sleep tonight. grassing up stanley fans for standing at football. he did it to feel important.

nadsw2002 · 04-03-2007, 20:42

No probs!