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20-09-2013, 09:10
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
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Originally Posted by Harrysmate
Actually, the ONLY realistic way out of this is to produce performances that will attract people through the turnstiles. It's simple on paper, but the reality is somewhat different. It all comes down to cash, attendances and performances.
Unless the Sultan of Brunei suddenly finds out that his Grandad was born in Baxenden, we aren't really going to find a 'sugar daddy' to wave his wand.
Hard work and a fighting spirit. The players can only ever do their best and hope it's enough. There are plenty of clubs facing a financial precipice.
Resigning the league is throwing the towel in. It's a non-starter. It would mean self-inflicted permanent exile. If Accy leave the League it should be after fighting to stay there.
Look at Stockport now. No thanks.
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Spot on. Everyone who attends the crown, knows its always been a financial nightmare fer a club like ours, if they aint aware of the fact then they are numpties. To me this message from P.M. is like a warning shot across the bows, to those who don't go? Ok were in a sticky situation, but thats nowt new, But the panicky ones latch on to it, Keep The Faith.
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20-09-2013, 10:15
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
From a long way away, it doesn't seem to me that even a successful team can attract support from the town. The play-off semi 3 seasons back didn't approach selling out, iirc. Nor did a FA Cup fourth round tie against Fulham .....
Getting league status back righted a 50 year-old wrong and was the fulfilment of a mission (logically a mission impossible, but passion overcomes logic). Relegation back to a level commensurate with the support the town can provide regularly is probably inevitable at some stage, though not necessarily this time, yet. On the other hand, resignation from the league mid-season would be every bit as much of a tragedy as it was in '62. And let's not kid ourselves that a team resigning from the league in that situation would get a Conference place the following season. If we do go back through the trapdoor to non-league we must do it with dignity and a measure of control.
And btw, as a resident (not a supporter) of Pompey, I take a lot of pride in the way my fellow citizens continue to support their (now fan-owned) club despite the appalling mismanagement over the last few years, and the way the local suppliers continue to be prepared to provide services despite being let down twice. If only Accrington felt the same way ....
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20-09-2013, 11:16
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
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Originally Posted by johnc
Please allow me to say F**K THAT!!!!!!!!!
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sorry, I must confirm what I meant by resign - not fold mid-season but to see out the season and whatever happens we drop. I'd prefer that to be a dignified, finished 22nd type of drop but we must go to a level where we can afford to function without the threat of closure hanging over us.
League status is nice and is a reward to all those who toiled for decades to achieve it. However I 'm sure all those people would rather us have a club to try again with, rather than one that refused to throw in the towel and folded with ridiculously small debts again.
Maybe it's overkill, maybe PM was just trying scare tactics as did the two previous Chairmen over about 7 successive seasons but there must be an element of truth behind it or why say it?
No doubt the AGM tonight will shed some light on it "don't worry, it's fine. But it is true we need more through the gates".
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From a personal point of view I'd rather we stayed in the league but we did it honestly and without gambling our future. We may have the lowest budget in the league on around 500k but even this is too high. Announce to the world that next season will be fought out with our youth team on a budget of 50p. Let the world know that this is the future for 4th tier football because of the strangulation of the game at PL level.
I'd sooner back a team of plucky kids trying hard to finish 22nd than a team of paid professionals under achieving. Invoke the spirit of all those who have gone before and do it on our terms, not trying to keep up with those who have more money than us
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20-09-2013, 11:23
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
What a crock of s***e
Maybe just have someone at the club with commercial nouse! Theres a serious lack of common sense being applied to policies/campaigns.
Attendances have been dwindling for years, how the club can budget 2000 coming through the gates is commercial suicide. Not only that, football fans are the most fickle in the world,people dont watch Accrington Stanley when they're winning nevermind sitting at the bottom of the football league.
Dont get me wrong Im keeping the faith and I still believe its just a matter of time until fortunes turn on the pitch! However, the 'noise' off the pitch does not fill with anybody with confidence, although its quite a pragmatic statement in terms of the direct correlation between support and the survival of the football club, I think Marsden could have done it very differently. I guess the press have had a hand in the portrayal of the issue.
I think it should be more like this
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rc...79762480875754
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20-09-2013, 11:42
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
Fan ownership anyone?
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20-09-2013, 12:04
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
If the situation is as dire as some are implying then as Fans we have a right to know what is going on?
Our Own Club Website is very quiet on the subject yes there is an AGM tonight but are we not all stakeholders in some shape or form so the address should be to everyone give us a chance to hear first hand how things are and ask the questions whether that be via Our Chairman, One of the Fan's Directors or the Supporters Liaison Officer.
Forums can be argued are not the place to tell all that's a fair point but they are a place for fans to either praise or vent their frustration.
Our Support is small but with that comes a togetherness and with that comes a group of people who are diehards that in the past have been used to people's own ends if there was ever a time to bring everyone together with a focus and a genuine goal now is it both for the Lads on the Pitch and all those off the Pitch.
It is All Our Club
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20-09-2013, 14:14
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
Fan ownership would be difficult! we haven't got enough fans!
Its a real shame to see this happening again but if we survive this time the problem will come back again in a couple of years as it has done now.
For me this season is a right off, our squad isn't good enough to compete for financial reasons and relegation shouldn't bother us. The 1000 fans we have will still come in the conference and conference north.
League two was our premier league and we have survived there for 7 years!!!
who knows in ten years time we might come back up and steal the hearts of the locals again (temporarily!!)
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20-09-2013, 14:39
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
Disagree season is far from a right off to me, and to say the lads aint good enough to compete is insulting.
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20-09-2013, 14:58
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
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Disagree season is far from a right off to me, and to say the lads aint good enough to compete is insulting.
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Didn't mean it insulting! I don't blame the players one bit or the manager for that matter. They are playing to the best of their abilities and giving 100%. Yet we haven't won a game!
Many clubs in our position would invest in better players, we cant!
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20-09-2013, 14:58
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
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Originally Posted by Harrysmate
Resigning the league is throwing the towel in. It's a non-starter. It would mean self-inflicted permanent exile. If Accy leave the League it should be after fighting to stay there.
Look at Stockport now. No thanks.
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Right on the money. You NEVER EVER give up your precious Football League status voluntarily. If we end the season in one of the bottom two places (which I don't think we will), then fair, enough, we've no choice in the matter. But to suggest that we just play out the season, then make some sort of quiet, dignified voluntary exit from the league is sheer defeatism.
We voluntarily resigned from the league on March 6th, 1962 and the very next day we were regretting it and trying to rescind our resignation...and we carried on regretting it for 44 years! And now some people are suggesting that we make this same mistake all over again.
Look, this is Accrington Stanley, financial crises have been a fact of life for us since Accrington FC started up in the late 19th Century. We're struggling, we'll probably always struggle, but just to give up and meekly accept our place as a Conference North club? Nah..that's not our way!
Passion overcomes logic!
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20-09-2013, 15:09
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
I cannot believe the defeatism in this thread, very sad
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20-09-2013, 15:29
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
They're right folks. Rolling over and accepting defeat would be silly!
Seeing the season out to be relegated, thats just backwards thinking!
We're the club that would die.
This statement is testament to the supporters of Accrington Stanley. NEVER GIVE UP!!!
If someone was taking something away from you in your life, would you just stand still in silence and let it disappear? No you bloody wouldnt.
Lets pick your heads up off the floor and think positive as SUPPORTers. Rightly so we can pass judgement on both on & the off the field occurrences as we invest our hard earned money but negative thinking generally elicits negative outcomes.
KEEP THE FAITH!
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Last edited by AsFc62; 20-09-2013 at 15:31.
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20-09-2013, 16:01
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
Well said ash, using the logic of some on here, we wouldn't have turned up at Boro the other week.
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20-09-2013, 17:23
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
i'll see you all at the Easter bucket handout then
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20-09-2013, 18:28
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Re: Stanley to close within months ...
Oh ******.
Hope no one saw my slight error... In my post,
We're the club that wouldn't die.
Hahahahah ooooops
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