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09-03-2007, 14:26
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
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So what is the gist of what they are saying on there as we cant view ??
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They all seem to be sympathetic apart from one idiot who was going on about the Alty incident,but Kipax put him in his place
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09-03-2007, 14:29
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey
OK, I'm ready now....
Is anyone really surprised by what's happened? I was really angry when I first heard about this, but now I feel like it's what I've come to expect.
I said months ago that Stanley is a Football League team, but a Conference North (or lower) club. The way things are run are nothing short of shambolic!! Minimal, inexperienced staff can't be expected to run a professional business, but it's what's been happening for some time now.
When we played Kidderminster at the end of last season I was talking to their ex-secretary. He said that administration in the League was a nightmare and that the paperwork and regulations were 5 times the amount of that in the Conference. He said he had two filing cabinets: one for club stuff and one for League stuff. There was so much of it. He said dealing with the admin side of the League was a full-time job, so what do Stanley do? The club passes the duties of the club secretary around a handful of employees, with a young girl with minimal experience and knowledge being given club secretarial duties (alongside her other work).
Stanley have stumbled blindly along and have now been caught out. In light of the way that other clubs have been punished for breaking similar rules, Stanley should be punished in a similar fashion.
Let's face it, we're not a League club! A League club is a professional business, not an amateur make-do outfit. I feel for the fans. I feel for the players. I feel for the innocents affected by all this. I feel embarrassed, ashamed and let down!!! However, one thing I don't feel is surprised.
Tinpot all the way!
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A very honest but sadly a correct statement of the clubs management structure...
On the Cheap... Eric and you may have been found out.
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09-03-2007, 14:32
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#108
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
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They all seem to be sympathetic apart from one idiot who was going on about the Alty incident,but Kipax put him in his place
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LOL go kipax lol so thats where he's hiding these days
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09-03-2007, 15:17
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
how must the players feel to have caused this ???
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09-03-2007, 15:18
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
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how must the players feel to have caused this ???
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Pretty smug if they came from Hereford.
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09-03-2007, 16:16
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
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how must the players feel to have caused this ???
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The players haven't caused this, it's the bad administration of our amateur backroom staff.
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09-03-2007, 16:48
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
feel sorry for you guys. being a shaker i obviously know a little about how this feels as it happened to us in the cup, and as much as it would make us feel a little bit safer it's no way for a team to go down should that happen.
At the end of the day we're both similar sized clubs and could do with the revenue from the derby games rather than getting nowt for tuesday night rearranged games against the likes of Torquay and Boston.
just hope this doesn't cost you more than the points.
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09-03-2007, 16:54
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
Can't understand why the club haven't declared the other game involved, at least we'd know the scale of any deduction. 4,5 or 7?
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09-03-2007, 16:59
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
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Can't understand why the club haven't declared the other game involved, at least we'd know the scale of any deduction. 4,5 or 7?
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"The Club" haven't mentioned anyone or any game, they have come from other sources, they only told us the usual amount - nothing really
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09-03-2007, 17:13
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
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Originally Posted by BuryDave
feel sorry for you guys. being a shaker i obviously know a little about how this feels as it happened to us in the cup, and as much as it would make us feel a little bit safer it's no way for a team to go down should that happen.
At the end of the day we're both similar sized clubs and could do with the revenue from the derby games rather than getting nowt for tuesday night rearranged games against the likes of Torquay and Boston.
just hope this doesn't cost you more than the points.
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Dave my mate is that you??
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09-03-2007, 18:06
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
this is just the icing on the cake for a bad season
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09-03-2007, 22:00
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
According to the LET Preston edition:
"Preston have confirmed they sent him to Stanley on loan so the talented youngster could experience first team football.
A spokesman for North End said today: "We can confirm that from January 15 scholar Chris McGrail was given permission to attend Accrington Stanley Football Club on work experience in accordance with FA Rule C3 (b) (v).""
Presumably they mean (a) (v) and that by "in accordance" they mean that the written permission was copied to the relevant people at the appropriate time.
I recall that at the time Preston's website signified their approbation of the move.
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09-03-2007, 22:13
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
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Originally Posted by Haggis316
Presumably they mean (a) (v) and that by "in accordance" they mean that the written permission was copied to the relevant people at the appropriate time.
I recall that at the time Preston's website signified their approbation of the move.
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Hope this isn't a "Whoosh" at Livingstone Rd.
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09-03-2007, 22:16
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
I hope it is! is it april fools yet?
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10-03-2007, 02:06
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Re: Stanley Under Investigation
3. (a) Trainees
(v) A registered Trainee may play for another Club subject to the written approval of the Club for which the Trainee is registered. A copy of the written permission must be received by The Association, the league or combination of which the Club is a member, the Trainee and the Club for which the Trainee is to play. A Club may not play more than two such Trainees in any match at first team level. (source www.thefa.com)
For those who aren't in the know, there is no rule C3 (b) (v) but the above is Rule C3 (a) (v).
However, if PNE are referring to the scholarship section, then the above section (v) still applies except change the words registered trainee for any player who is registered for a scholarship. Further bits where it refers to a trainee is changed to player. Any more thoughts?
Perhaps the FA are saying they never got the relevant paperwork from PNE
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