Substitutions and the Football Genius

[Lord Stiffupperlip]

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury

It’s easy to remember those games where he didn’t make a sub and we didn’t win, but what about those where he made no sub and we still went on to win? I bet those are soon forgotten.

As we've lost more games than we've won, we all remember the former & not the latter.
All I know is that I see the top visiting teams make tactical substitutions in nearly every game.
Some of them have resulted in us losing the game when their sub scores the winner.

[yonmon]

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip

As we've lost more games than we've won, we all remember the former & not the latter.
All I know is that I see the top visiting teams make tactical substitutions in nearly every game.
Some of them have resulted in us losing the game when their sub scores the winner.

Do you remember the term ' impact player ' Lord S ?. It was said that every team used to have one on their Subs bench.. even Accrington Stanley !!.
Recently, when viewing the Subs at the Wham wandering up and down the touchline, to keep their body heat up and ligaments supple I suppose ?. One cannot envisage any of them having much of an impact upon, or affecting the play and ultimate result of the game being played.
Am I then the only one to hold the opinion that currently players in a Stanley squad chosen for a game either as first choice or substitution are all as equally poor as the rest and therefore making Substitutions at any point would make no difference whatsoever !. ( Unless of course an injury forces this decision on the Manager ! ).

Is the finger of fate moving and the writing appearing on the wall ?

[Lord Stiffupperlip]

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip

Personally, I'd bring Rodgers back in at RB, move Johnson up to RMF with Opoku in CMF & give Diallo a start.
If we go for the same old selection at Burton, we may be in for another hiding.
Come on Professor Coleman, it's time for some brave choices.

Originally Posted by yonmon

Is the finger of fate moving and the writing appearing on the wall ?

Blimey, so it would seem Yonmon.
Has the Professor been studying our post's for inspiration???
Diallo gets a start & has more shots on goal than anybody else.
Then hello, hello! Along come not 1 but 2 substitutions - AT THE SAME TIME!
Altogether now....'Things can only get better'....

[Lord Didsbury]

I note that Burton, a team higher up the league and playing at home, made three subs. The first as early as the 55th minute.

Yet it made no difference.

The point is, that the above proves nothing. It is just one match.

But looking at stats over a longer period of time, whilst difficult to get a rock solid conclusion, still provides some reasonable evidence.

What you think you see with your own eyes is less reliable.

[yonmon]

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury

I note that Burton, a team higher up the league and playing at home, made three subs. The first as early as the 55th minute.

Yet it made no difference.

The point is, that the above proves nothing. It is just one match.

But looking at stats over a longer period of time, whilst difficult to get a rock solid conclusion, still provides some reasonable evidence.

What you think you see with your own eyes is less reliable.

I

Exactly what my Optometrist keeps telling me Lord D !..

But if , Statistically speaking, there is a 65 percent chance that the love of your life is having an affair. ...

Then perhaps one cannot be blamed for not placing ultimate faith in the statistics surrounding the using of Substitutes in League 1 Football matches !.. 🤔😎

[Lord Stiffupperlip]

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury

I note that Burton, a team higher up the league and playing at home, made three subs. The first as early as the 55th minute.
Yet it made no difference.

Lord D, who's to say it made no difference?
As Stanley had more possession & more shots on target, it may have ensured Burton didn't lose the game.
Likewise, substituting Diallo & Charles (our scorer) in the 80th minute, may have denied us scoring an injury time winner.
Alternately, it may have ensured we came away with a well earned point.
The whole thing is subjective & depends whether you feel substitutions can influence the outcome.
Sometimes they will, sometimes they won't.
It's a mystery wrapped up in an enigma.

[Lord Stiffupperlip]

To anyone who doubts the the whole value of substitutes, here's a little reminder of what happened when we met Shrewsbury at the Wham earlier this season;
When Sam Ricketts (football genius?) made 2 substitutions on 79 minutes, it changed the game.
Within 10 minutes, both Udoh & Okenabirhie had scored the goals to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat
Well, Sam Ricketts did it again tonight in the FA Cup.
2-0 down against the World Champions & runaway Premier League leaders Liverpool, they looked down & out.
With 30 minutes left, Ricketts sends on Cummings & wham bam!.... jackpot replay at Anfield.
I rest my case.

[Lord Didsbury]

Lord S - well exactly... it’s a bit like a golfer who never takes any risks. Just eases the ball foward and not very far, but always down the middle.
This golfer is criticised because he never birdies the par 5s and often drops a shot on a long par 3.

Then there’s the go for broke golfer who birdies all the par 5s and sometimes birdies that long par 3.

With my own eyes I see the apparent stupidity of the first golfer. But over the course of a year the first golfer’s average is miles better because he’s not getting the double and triple bogies of the risk taker.

Why ignore the stats? I mean, do you not even bother with the league table? That’s just stats.

[Lord Stiffupperlip]

Milord, I appreciate your golfing metaphor.
However, how boring it would be if, when watching the Masters at Augusta, all the pro's played safe & scored par at every hole - YAWN!
What spectators want is the hole in one!
Likewise in football, if all teams played safe & took no risks, every game would result in a 0-0 draw.
The Shrews didn't pull a rabbit from the hat tonight by playing slow & steady, they risked all on a gamble & it paid off.
Do you think the shrews fans are for or against the use of subs??????

[Exile on Spencer St]

Can we get Cummings as a sub, please?

[Lord Didsbury]

“The definition of genius is taking the complex and making it simple.”
Albert Einstein.

Nowt more simple than making no subs! Coley is a genius.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury

“The definition of genius is taking the complex and making it simple.”
Albert Einstein.

Nowt more simple than making no subs! Coley is a genius.

im now convinced your on drugs lol

[yonmon]

Originally Posted by cashman

im now convinced your on drugs lol

Aren't we all ?? ����

[Lord Didsbury]

Drugs or not, I've got the stats on my side and Coley has his multiple promotions.

Wot you got? A few moaning mates on the terrace who share your bitter views?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury

Drugs or not, I've got the stats on my side and Coley has his multiple promotions.

Wot you got? A few moaning mates on the terrace who share your bitter views?

my views are far from bitter, just never in my life been an arse kisser.unlike some.