Surely Coleman must go

[maccawozzagod]

as far as the club folding is concerned I don't think that would ever happen again to a club of any size above miniscule (North West Counties and below). If you owe money there are fiddles available to ensure you don't pay it. As we don't owe any money we don't have that problem.

The only thing we would suffer would be the ignominy of relegation and possibly going into debt to pay the outstanding (not as this minute but worst case scenario) wages of players we have had to release as we can't afford to pay them.

As we stand at this moment we are financially poor in terms of cash flow but we do not have large debts to service as some clubs do. Imagine if we had borrowed to build the roof, if we had borrowed to sign Evil and Paul Carden - we'd be in a bad state then as we'd have debts and no way of paying them.

We all bang on about wanting this and that but this and that cost money to procure. If we sell a player on for damn good money or if we have a good cup run and draw a big team then maybe we'd have the money to have a little gamble on getting extra backroom staff in to try to increase revenue but until then we have to make do with mending what we have.

Lets all be proud of the fact that this ramshackle team is still halfway up the division with teams below us that spend far more on wages, have bigger crowds, sell more merchandise, have more backroom staff etc.

We may not be an example of speculating to accumulate, and we may not be an example of innovative business development. But what we are is a shining example to every little club below us of what can be acheived with the right men at the right time and the right mindset. Every season we survice at this level is another kick in the teeth for so called bigger clubs below us such as Exeter, Oxford, Rushden, Stevenage, Cambridge. If the inevitable ever happens then at least we had our years in the League, until then we need to buckle up tight and start thinking of ways we can try to improve the situations we face

[JEFF]

Coley has stated that he has the strongest squad that he has ever had. Last Saturday Mully and Roscoe were injured, we have three other strikers on the books , Evil, Browny and McGivern. Evil has be sent to Rochdale to score goals, Browny was in midfield and Leighton McGivern was warming the bench. We started the game with Craney and Boco up front after Stanley went one down Coley changed it, he dropped Boco into midfield and sent Browny up front. At two nil down he took off Roberts and sent on Dennehy and played him on the wing, three nil down at half time. Start of the second half Browny and Boco had been substituted and on came Miles and Whalley. At one time Miles, Whalley and Dennehy were all bunched up on the right wing. I couldn't get depressed at the performance because it was that funny. MK Dons weren't that good a team, any team can only play as well as the opposition let them and on Saturday Stanley let them, face it a pub team would have looked good against Stanley on Saturday. To say that Coley has lost the plot is an understatement it is worse than that, he is clutching at straws. Some people on here say that they will be happy if we just escape relegation but Coley says that the squad we have should be in the play offs at least, well it's about time that he proved it and if he can't then retire. As Bagpuss and I have said before it's time that Eric said goodby as he promised to do and let's have a proper clear out. Only good results will bring back the crowds and I don't think that it it going to happen, but I hope it does. I would love it for Coley and Eric to prove me wrong but time will tell.

[fc:stanley]

Whos going to come to stanley on colemans wages and do a better job? For me no-one! Im sure coley will learn from this, all managers make wrong decisions! However where 15th and i dont see why people are complaining, just give coley a chance to progress from these games he has lost , btw its only christmas! Plenty of time to turn results round! Keep The Faith!!!!!!

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by fc:stanley

Whos going to come to stanley on colemans wages and do a better job? For me no-one! Im sure coley will learn from this, all managers make wrong decisions! However where 15th and i dont see why people are complaining, just give coley a chance to progress from these games he has lost , btw its only christmas! Plenty of time to turn results round! Keep The Faith!!!!!!

Please tell me what Colemans wages are.
We are 15th and on a downward spiral.
People are complaining because they are paying good money to watch a comedy show.

[Stanleymad]

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

If the inevitable ever happens then at least we had our years in the League, until then we need to buckle up tight and start thinking of ways we can try to improve the situations we face

We ??? we the fans, we the club or we as a co-joined unit??

[BedsRed]

Well, what a strange weekend. At 2pm on Saturday, I was p----d off as my game had just been called off and we were a little more than an hour away from Milton Keynes. At 4.45pm on Saturday, I was delighted I'd missed the game, and as the weekend wore on, I got angrier and angrier about the result.

However, this website restored my sense of perspective:

Unibond Football League Official Site

When you look at some of the teams in there, such as Radcliffe and Bamber Bridge and remember being outplayed by both under previous management, you realise just what has been achieved by the present management. Perhaps we should make a point of looking at these tables after a defeat.

Yes, we need investment (and if Eric needs to go to get this, then I hope he is sensible enough to do so when the right offer comes in). Yes, we have underachieved in recent weeks, but overall, given where we have come from, the size of the club, the size of the town, the gates, etc. in all honesty, a lot of us would take third from bottom at the end of the season.

There may be an arguement that perhaps JC and JB have been here for too long, but that is the kind of debate that ought to take place at the end of the season, when there is no need to panic and everyone at the club can take stock (and if a change is needed, the new man can bring his own players in).

Little will be achieved by changing managers when we can't sign players due to the transfer window, or shift the players we would presumably need to get off the wage bill before we can sign any new players.

Anyone who thinks we would get a top manager on the playing budget, etc we have here is deluded. I have seen a few people suggest that a "name" as player manager would be a step in the right direction. The problem is, that these days, the "names" already have enough money, so have no desire to put themselves through the stresses and strains of club management. Credit to Ince and Wise (tiresome little gets that they are) for bucking that trend. Paul Cook was a great player (and a good servant to ASFC in his time here) but hasn't exactly shown an aptitude for management. God help us, with our look we'd probably end up with Graham Branch!

Think I've gone on more than enough, but I just felt it needed saying.

At the risk of sounding like a certain Scouse ex-schoolteacher, keep the faith.

[BedsRed]

Originally Posted by BedsRed

God help us, with our look we'd probably end up with Graham Branch!

Obviously, that should be "with our luck". No excuses and haven't worked out how to edit yet

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by BedsRed

Anyone who thinks we would get a top manager on the playing budget, etc we have here is deluded.

What is our playing budget, etc please tell me.
Macclesfield managed to get Paul Ince last season.

[Revived Red]

Originally Posted by BedsRed

... you realise just what has been achieved by the present management. Perhaps we should make a point of looking at these tables after a defeat.

We know what has been achieved and we are all very grateful for that. But there is little point in looking back. We want to look forward.

Originally Posted by BedsRed

Little will be achieved by changing managers when we can't sign players due to the transfer window, or shift the players we would presumably need to get off the wage bill before we can sign any new players.

Managers do not only buy and sell - they motivate, they have ideas, they instigate tactics, they organise the individuals into a cohesive unit. In three different games recently, I have heard the 2br commentators saying that the Stanley players appear not to know each other.

Originally Posted by BedsRed

Anyone who thinks we would get a top manager on the playing budget, etc we have here is deluded.

We do not expect a "top manager", whatever one of those may be. We want a manager who can do the things I have listed above. An ambitious manager with ideas would suit us fine.

[Darwenred1968]

We are at the league leaders and getting slaughtered at half time! Do we bring on a tenacious little striker to at least try and bring some repectability to the scoreline NO!! we bring on John miles COLEMAN is clueless please go now before you drive all our fans away (whats left of them)!

[slerpy]

I am PRO Coleman , Saturday was a PIG, both decent stikers were out the best thing to do is forget ,forgive and move on hopefully UPWARDS .

[Zero]

"I`m sure there`s a simple solution............ Probably involving Triangles" PYTHAGORAS.

All you can do as a true fan is continue to attend as often as you can, give as much vocal encouragement to the team on the pitch as your lungs can muster no matter what, and continue to uphold your 100% of the bargain which the club (chairman, manager and players) must strive to equal.

Saturday was our first proper stuffing since Bristol a year ago, if it were regular you could hold your hands up and say "were crap". But we`re far from it and there`s a lot of quality in the squad and we`ve even seen them all linking up and playing lovely football for odd games and spells. So its soooooooooo blinking annoying when they`re turning out regular toss performances.

It`s all gone downhill since username COLEY made that stroppy post about not reading or posting accyweb again. Maybe that was the real Coley and now he no longer has his finger on the pulse of the hive of football intellect previously available to him.

[Stanleymad]

Zero couldnt of put it better u have the pulse of the red there

Where is username coley these days - pondering pythagoras ??

[cmonstanley]

i think we are all missing the point .we wouldnt be half peed off if the players were putting some more effort into home games i wouldnt mind losing some games as long as the players were putting the effort in.too many times they just seem to be going through the motions and daydreaming .what we need is the players to focus and give a hundred percent.too many times the players are out of position.its time to get back to basics.let the defenders defend the midfielders set up goals and the strikers to push and penetrate up front.how many times does somebody get the ball and he can only pass side-ways or back because there is nobody in the penalty box.if we were going to hump the ball up make sure it is in the penalty box not stuck in midfield and lose possession..stanley can play good on their day so its time for the players to wake up.wakey wakey cmon all we want is 100% effort and more direct to create more chances.....ps and no short corners they are rubbish they are not constuctive enough a pure waste of time and effort..so cmon stanley get in the box back to basics...: Banane25:cmon stanley get intae them

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Zero

Maybe that was the real Coley and now he no longer has his finger on the pulse of the hive of football intellect previously available to him.

Brilliant. Deadpan Accy humour at its best. Just made me laugh for the first time this week. Roll on Saturday...