Team for Tranmere - Page 4

cashman · 18-01-2015, 00:26

Well the worst two displays ive seen this season, have been since the return of the terrible two. and that is a fact.

probably the best ive seen was the day after they took oer again, away at Northampton, Stevenson was in charge that day, they hadn't even took training then.

deeayess · 18-01-2015, 00:34

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Well the worst two displays ive seen this season, have been since the return of the terrible two. and that is a fact.

probably the best ive seen was the day after they took oer again, away at Northampton, Stevenson was in charge that day, they hadn't even took training then.

What two was that? You could perm any two from Dag and Red at home, Stevenage away, Carlisle away or today. You might struggle to rank them one to four and that is just the worst I can think of. I can't comment on York because I wasn't there.

I don't even feel confident next week but I will still be there if it's on. They have never beat us and I hope that stays the same but after today I wouldn't put money on it.

I take it that makes me a hater!!!

cashman · 18-01-2015, 00:38

Carlisle and Today in my opinion.

i was away when we played satanage, so can't really comment on that un. And for stanleyaccrington, Mr Newell aint been on the scene this week, so thats probably a no-no anyway. York was by no means good, but not as bad as those two imho.

StanleyAccrington · 18-01-2015, 00:43

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And for stanleyaccrington, Mr Newell aint been on the scene this week, so thats probably a no-no anyway.

Thought I saw him in the dugout today.

StanleyAccrington · 18-01-2015, 01:29

Just watched FLS, so here are my thoughts on the three Tranmere goals:

First goal - Conneely tries to do too much and gets caught, then Mingoia puts in a weak challenge. Both of them are about 10 yards too far upfield which means Atkinson has to come over to try and stop the cross and Joyce drops back into central defence. Aldred appears too flat-footed whilst Donnelly is very alert and gets across him to get the shot away. It looks to be straight at Macey having viewed it a couple of times but it's not exactly a howler and there was some power on the shot so he can have the benefit of the doubt.

Second goal - Winnard comes up to press the Tranmere player on the halfway line and the deft pass beats him to set Taylor away with Naismith trailing far behind not tracking the run. The cross looks to hit Atkinson mid-stride - but it does look easier to concede a corner - and Fenelon has ample time and space to slam home as Aldred was drawn out to RB trying to stop the cross because Naismith/Winnard had given Taylor the freedom of their side of the pitch.

Third goal - The full-build up wasn't shown but, from what I saw, Conneely was again out of position as Donnelly had a good five yards or so on him and he raced away, exchanged passes with Odejayi before shaking off Conneely, who would have given away a penalty and probably a red card had he fouled him, to curl into the corner past Macey, who had no chance.

smudgie · 18-01-2015, 08:40

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Jesus, I've heard it all now. How can you blame that abomination today on Beattie? The sooner Accyweb introduce an ignore button the sooner we don't need to read the inane drivel from Dav007. The only thing is if he does likewise it will be an autobiography because the rest of the world appear to be haters!!!

There is an ignore post button somewhere mate. I've used it

yonmon · 18-01-2015, 09:54

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What two was that? You could perm any two from Dag and Red at home, Stevenage away, Carlisle away or today. You might struggle to rank them one to four and that is just the worst I can think of. I can't comment on York because I wasn't there.

I don't even feel confident next week but I will still be there if it's on. They have never beat us and I hope that stays the same but after today I wouldn't put money on it.

I take it that makes me a hater!!!

Like we have said deayess there are no haters on our Forum ( except Smudgie maybe whose byline boldly states that he hates Satanage !)...but we do have varying opinions which we are able to make freely, and at times with some passion !.
But I must agree with your post having witnessed most of the games mentioned, and York ranks along side of them I assure you, I can only repeat that in MY opinion the team are in a position where they are clearly being poorly coached, immotivated, and ill-prepared for what they are expected to produce as Football League players !.
Someone remarked yesterday that it was worse than watching Padiham play, which I felt was being a bit unkind to Padiham really !. But in comparison with Tranmere, who are not the best team in League 2, Stanley were third-rate on the day and our Manager deserves all the flak that he is receiving this weekend !..
Finally, JC says " perhaps I was too cocky !"... Which.made me feel that how in the world can he feel the slightest bit "cocky" when witnessing the ineptudes so apparent in recent games ?... a very strange reaction methinks ?.

HiHoUpTheStanley · 18-01-2015, 10:23

Yesterday was a poor performance but by no menas totally inept. Yes they totally deserved to win and could of been more but we had a fair few chances ourselves and denied a clear pemalty for me when the score was 2-0.
Onto JC, well to call for his head or want change is ridiculous. Yesterday was poor but after every defeat we surely cant want a change of manager?
If poor coaching is gaining 26 points from 16 games i dont know what good coaching is. If you carried that form throughout the season it averages 74 points. I for one am quite happy with the position and would of taken it in august but because its coleman whos in charge we all of a sudden have to be in the automatic posistions. Beattie would not of talked about gaining a play off place when he was in charge but move on from beattie now, hes gone.

It was only 2 weeks ago we won at exeter and 1 month ago we won at portsmouth. This is a good crop of lads that can with a little bit of assistance be improved.
P.S the daggers game at home was not a bad performance at all. We deserved to win that particular game. And also Coleman and Bell were in charge at Northampton as they took training Thursday, Friday before that game.
Lets Keep the Faith and pick up maximum points down south next week!!

cashman · 18-01-2015, 10:33

So come on then highlight the post thats calling for his head? Criticizing the coaching is whats deserved its inept, In fact listen to the video, he says more than once its hes fault, and so he damn well should. but its having the ability to do summat about it, not just admit, that we must wait and see. Thats incorrect they had not took training before Northampton.

deeayess · 18-01-2015, 10:56

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So come on then highlight the post thats calling for his head? Criticizing the coaching is whats deserved its inept, In fact listen to the video, he says more than once its hes fault, and so he damn well should. but its having the ability to do summat about it, not just admit, that we must wait and see. Thats incorrect they had not took training before Northampton.

I agree, no one is calling for his head all I would like is that he learns from his mistakes. Crooks was never a striker but we persisted with him. He appeared to be a decent midfield player but we didn't play him there. We don't appear to be able to change a game quick enough at times especially away from home. We repeat mistakes in games and seem to lose concentration at vital times. Is it because we are trying to fit players into a system rather than develope a system that suits our players? We don't have a consistent goal scorer and try to play midfielders as a striker which isnt working at times.

We have good players and are getting results against the top teams but we have lost to 4 of the bottom 6 teams and those will hinder us if we are looking at promotion.

There is more presure on Coley because he was brought in with a fanfare and we were sold a dream of being promotion contenders. Perhaps that's unfair on him and Jimmy but that's the reality given he always improved each season before he left.

We have had a good run of form picking up points but usually by a single goal. However other than yesterday we are only losing by a single goal. A bit of good luck here we gain points but a bit of bad luck there and we lose them. We need to dominate games and keep luck out of it.

It's Wimbledon on Saturday and they have never beat us so let's have a good performance and a comfortable win to set us up for the future but no matter what I doubt very much anyone will be calling for Coleys head.

yonmon · 18-01-2015, 11:05

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Originally Posted by cashman

So come on then highlight the post thats calling for his head? Criticizing the coaching is whats deserved its inept, In fact listen to the video, he says more than once its hes fault, and so he damn well should. but its having the ability to do summat about it, not just admit, that we must wait and see. Thats incorrect they had not took training before Northampton.

No talk of calling for anyone's head !.. and of total ineptitude , although if my understanding of the word is that it describes being without skill or aptitude is accurate, then this is what we are witnessing at this moment in time, not when we had the enthusiasm of John O'Sullivan in our lineup !.
We are not scoring goals because we have not got a Striker skilful enough to finish off a move!.We are being overrun in midfield because there is a lack of aptitude apparent in the
selected players, and our defence are being put under unnecessary pressure because of these weaknesses. !.
So ,instead of calling for his head, the opinion I stated was that JC , if he is unable to coach the team towards success should be afforded some help to do this !, which wouldn't really be a bad thing now, would it ?.

( Cashy !...this riposte was for the previous postee honestly !... so don't take umbrage...please !!!).0

cashman · 18-01-2015, 11:33

I know that Yonmon, I never take the hump wi you, It was a stupid comment he made in my view, anyone wi a grain of sense surely understands, Stanley are not a sacking club, they cant afford to be!

smudgie · 18-01-2015, 14:51

As other's have said nobody is calling for Coley and Bell to go, for a start we cant afford to sack ANYBODY, no matter how poor we are performing.

For me personally, I would take 22nd position in this league every season. Let's not forget we are without a doubt the smallest club, with smallest budget etc etc......

BUT...

However despite this as other's have already pointed out we don't seem to be learning from our mistakes and getting the best out of decent players.... Crooks, Carver, Gray, Moly, Hatfield, Liddle etc etc are ALL better player's than we have seen this season.... They can't surely ALL be performing poorly due to themselves??? Will got snapped up straight away by Halifax and Moly obviously at Tranmere.... so something to me just isnt right at the moment.

Looking at when Coley arrived , for me O sullivan really was the main man, sort of a Jimmy Ryan type Midfielder who could take the game by the scruff of its neck, which we are now lacking massively.

Also we are lacking up top, but what I cant work out is why Gray (who isnt my favourite by any means) , isnt given more of a chance? I see Bowerman is also back from loan?? Could it hurt by giving him half an hour next weekend?? As for Carver being left out, for a petty reason, is an absolute joke which I wont go into.

Coley has never been the best at making subs as we all know.. But even though I wasn't there yesterday surely being 0-2 down at half time meant it wasn't working?? Why not go for the jugular as it where and chuck Gray etc on , we had nothing to lose.

Good luck to those going to Wimbledon next weekend.... I really am worried at the moment.

yerself · 18-01-2015, 18:55

All this is irrelevant. What do any of us know about football, how many of us have a UEFA coaching badge like the football genius?

Chubbyman · 18-01-2015, 19:05

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All this is irrelevant. What do any of us know about football, how many of us have a UEFA coaching badge like the football genius?

Your so right , none of us mere mortals would have had the foresight to play totally inexperienced and non machfit players and drop two proven defenders,thank god I've not got my coaching badges.