The Tad Late Wycombe Thread

[cashman]

Carver at least looked like he wanted the ball i said, is that difficult fer yeh too grasp Frank? no-one endeared themselves to the fans this afternoon.

[FrankMoody]

Originally Posted by cashman

Carver at least looked like he wanted the ball i said, is that difficult fer yeh too grasp Frank? no-one endeared themselves to the fans this afternoon.

Not difficult at all cashy, but my dog runs around after a ball at the park but I don't think he's getting in the squad for Tuesday

Btw what about Bocco, we'll be lucky to hold on to him in January especially if he has to put up with the crap around him like today.

[accybeme]

We looked a very poor side today, to be fair Wycombe had a good game their defence was efficient, Ainsworth had a super game and inspired his team, perhaps we should have put Leam on to inspire the reds

[FrankMoody]

Originally Posted by accybeme

We looked a very poor side today, to be fair Wycombe had a good game their defence was efficient, Ainsworth had a super game and inspired his team, perhaps we should have put Leam on to inspire the reds

I happen to think we've got enough in he squad for inspiration but not if they're sat on the bench or in the stand

[AccyMad]

Agree with a lot that has been said on here, up until the last 10 minutes or so we were awful BUT do those who saw fit to boo the lads off at the end of the first half (& it sounded like there were quite a few) really believe that helped matters?
Sorry but I am of the mind that no matter what may be happening on the pitch, you do not boo your own team - disgraceful in my opinion.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by FrankMoody

Not difficult at all cashy, but my dog runs around after a ball at the park but I don't think he's getting in the squad for Tuesday

Btw what about Bocco, we'll be lucky to hold on to him in January especially if he has to put up with the crap around him like today.

Off todays performance on that basis probably only Carver,Lindfield,Boco, Molyneaux, actually looked like they wanted the ball, most of the others should be ashamed of that display n should not be in the squad on tuesday. yer dog should stand a better chance.

[Redraine]

Originally Posted by AccyMad

Agree with a lot that has been said on here, up until the last 10 minutes or so we were awful BUT do those who saw fit to boo the lads off at the end of the first half (& it sounded like there were quite a few) really believe that helped matters?
Sorry but I am of the mind that no matter what may be happening on the pitch, you do not boo your own team - disgraceful in my opinion.

I didn't boo, but I didn't applaud them at the end, not being a hypocrite!

[Redash]

Originally Posted by Redraine

I didn't boo, but I didn't applaud them at the end, not being a hypocrite!

Same here, for the same reasons too.

[shakermaker]

Wycombe were a good, well organised and committed team. We were anything but.

For a good few weeks our defenders have seen far too much of the ball. Miller and Joyce should be the ones seeking forward passes - not Murphy or Toto. Our distribution has been woeful. The midfield is quite simply a mess. The players simply do not know what their individual roles are - where they should be playing or what they ought to be doing. The forward line - aka Padraig Amond - is a position wasted. It was bad enough when we were lumping the ball up to Podge, unrealistically expecting him to hold it up on his own. Now we don't even bother with that.

The formation is over-complicated and lacking in pragmatism in my opinion. To play 4-2-3-1 you need discipline and understanding when it comes to positioning. When played incorrectly the forward player becomes isolated, the midfield is exploited on the flanks and the defence is left exposed. Ring any bells?

We desperately need to revert to a functional formation such as 4-4-2 and build up from there.

The back line ought to be an immovable object. Winnard, Murphy, Nsiala and Liddle are all capable and competent defenders but the gaps between them are like the opening credits to Emmerdale. An ethos needs to be instilled of 'you shall not pass'.
The midfield has gone missing of late and needs to make itself known. Joyce is a quality holding midfield player and that should be his single role - break up, mop up and move it on. Take the pressure off him - he is not a creative player! Boco and Molyneux are great creative forces at this level and if given simple instructions to dominate the flank - rather than holding the ball up for advancing full backs - they will decimate the opposition. John Coleman strived for four centre backs across the back line rather than the modern roaming full back and it worked for a time. That's what we need at the moment, not Winnard and Liddle making painfully obvious overlapping runs. I must seem like I have a strange obsession with George Miller (this is only part true) but he is such a talent on the ball. Let him go forward and play the Scholes role, it is ready made for him.
Up front we need to double up. When Carver came on it showed not that he is a better forward than Amond - because he isn't yet - rather it showed that with two forwards we are able to work the opposition much better. One forward runs for the ball, the other runs into position. Beattie and Amond would be a great partnership but even in the absence of an injured Beats, Carver is hungry and fearless. I can only assume that Sheppard is either unfit or uninterested.

I apologise for yet another tactical rant but yesterday's display was simply diabolical for a professional outfit. League 2 tried its hand at nu-football formations but has now reverted back. The best teams this season are the most functional. We must bring some industry into our team to match our ability to play the ball. We are now 19th and will continue to slip unless things improve dramatically.

And... breathe.

[yonmon]

As I was leaving the ground I heard the word 'abysmal' used by one disgruntled fan...and whilst the Club are not yet staring into 'the abyss' at the bottom of which awaits the Conference, as I said last week there is now enough evidence on view to cause a few silent twitchings in one's gluteal muscles !!.
Shaker's summary relating to tactics, formations and player
performances needs no additional thoughts from me, but one factor did stand out quite plainly again yesterday afternoon and this is that the team do not posess, yet sadly lack, a real leader on the pitch !!.
It was disappointing to see that after the Chairboys ( Who must have really felt that their Christmas had arrived early this year !!)...scored their second goal, the only attitude displayed was one which was indicated by a spreading of hands..and a shaking of heads !...at that moment, in my opinion, the match was lost !. A situation that demanded a leader to take positive action was ignored, and the same ineffective play continued towards it's obvious ending.
So then where is there a leader ?...does wearing the Captain's armband automatically suppose that the recipient is a leader of men ?...again evidence would suggest not !!.
The qualities needed to be a successful leader on a Soccer pitch are not easy to quantify...but without them a Team will at the best merely tick over...and without them fail miserably !....Who then can fill this role at The Crown ?...or more urgently at The Kassam next Tuesday evening ?...any ideas ?.

[cashman]

Perhaps Beattie if fit?

[maccawozzagod]

many of the young players released by clubs higher up the pyramid are released not because they lack talent, but because they are that little bit short of what it takes to become a top class player - I would imagine that little bit is the ability to play disciplined tactical football.

I was fortunate enough not to see the dross yesterday but this formation doesn't seem to be taking off, might it be because of the consistent changing of personnel? Coley brought the formation to the club because he couldn't land a striker that pre-season, but he did stick with the same side pretty much week in week out enabling that side to get used to it.

[LongLostSon]

I'll put me boots in the car shall I Yonmon ? - at 69 I can't play for toffee any more but have learned to get nasty when roused !

[football19]

Disappointed yesterday,and the writing was on the wall after ten minutes.There are a couple of reasons,but we just defended far too deep and payed the price.
There goals summed this up,with a combination of ball watching and defending too deep.
First goal,Joyce's man received the ball on the edge of the box,and he's got ten yards of space to control and shot.
The shot got deflected into another players path,but toto was anchored on the six yard box waiting for something to happen instead of getting out or marking the player who the shot hit,schoolboy stuff really.
The second goal,toto again is five yards behind the defensive line,and watching the ball,un-aware his man has spun off him and just can't recover.
All basic defending really,but we are getting punished for our lack of experience and communication,this needs addressing and fast.
Another problem is we are not holding the ball up front,it doesn't matter how many you play up top,someone has to do it,and at present we aren't.
Playing bohan behind the the forward and Bocco out wide was a head scratcher,I would have gone with boco behind the front man and Linney out wide,although as speccies we don't know who's fit/carrying knocks etc..
In reality we have to get behind the team as the team is a young one,and added pressure will serve no purpose at all..

[yonmon]

Originally Posted by football19

Disappointed yesterday,and the writing was on the wall after ten minutes.There are a couple of reasons,but we just defended far too deep and payed the price.
There goals summed this up,with a combination of ball watching and defending too deep.
First goal,Joyce's man received the ball on the edge of the box,and he's got ten yards of space to control and shot.
The shot got deflected into another players path,but toto was anchored on the six yard box waiting for something to happen instead of getting out or marking the player who the shot hit,schoolboy stuff really.
The second goal,toto again is five yards behind the defensive line,and watching the ball,un-aware his man has spun off him and just can't recover.
All basic defending really,but we are getting punished for our lack of experience and communication,this needs addressing and fast.
Another problem is we are not holding the ball up front,it doesn't matter how many you play up top,someone has to do it,and at present we aren't.
Playing bohan behind the the forward and Bocco out wide was a head scratcher,I would have gone with boco behind the front man and Linney out wide,although as speccies we don't know who's fit/carrying knocks etc..
In reality we have to get behind the team as the team is a young one,and added pressure will serve no purpose at all..

Although some 'fans' were conspicuous by their absense yesterday, and some of us might cast a slight doubt or two now and again on our Forum, I feel sure that our wholehearted support is guaranteed F19..and Saturday's Pies were scrumptious !.