Today's Programme - Page 9

maccawozzagod · 11-10-2009, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Redraine

Well if that is all you have it points to either,
1) The club have an arrangement to pay off only part of the tax bill (unlikely) or,
2) They are going to take us into administration.

OR DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE MISSING K200+ IS COMING FROM - SOORY TO SHOUT.

no i dont know Mick. My original post was a little tongue in cheek BUT I can only deduce from the apparent lack of action all through this campaign that someone was always going to borrow what was needed after they had stuck in what they can. And that was always the plan no matter how much or how little was raised by shaking buckets.

June 5th we were told at the Stanhill meeting that David had approached a specialist football lending company based in Birmingham and was going to borrow against future earnings with the annual Football League payments as collateral. This was believed to form the cornerstone of his bid to buy Eric out.

Now it would appear to be our way out of the tax mess.

I could be entirely wrong.

Redraine · 11-10-2009, 21:33

Cheers - I didn't know that, although it sounds horribly dicey.

VALAIRIAN · 11-10-2009, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Redraine

Well if that is all you have it points to either,
1) The club have an arrangement to pay off only part of the tax bill (unlikely) or,
2) They are going to take us into administration.

OR DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE MISSING K200+ IS COMING FROM - SOORY TO SHOUT.

Admin, is not an option Redraine,as already under winding up order...

Redraine · 11-10-2009, 21:50

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN

Admin, is not an option Redraine,as already under winding up order...

Yeah, I suspected that. The prospect of digging ourselves even further into the mire with debt doesn't exactly encourage me to risk knackering my creaking hips on the Rochdale walk, though!

simon · 11-10-2009, 22:13

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Now that is good

I too believe 100% in Rob Heys, 100% Stanley fan that needs to be at ASFC for as long as he wants.....

yonmon · 12-10-2009, 06:56

Being still uncertain as to whether or not our Co-Chairperson has really kept his pledge after all !!...(Not having seen a defining statement yet which will fill not only myself, but Stanley Fans everywhere with joy and jubilation !)...

Perhaps I too Shurm am possibly missing something somewhere ?...if that's the case !

Just a word or two from HIM...(I now believe that he's not really a Villein ! (Not a spelling error !!)..would convince me that this rather self-deprecating bit of tomfoolery isn't so!!..because he did say ..."I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again."...

'ON STANLEY...ON...TO BETTER THINGS !!'
'

ukcowboy · 12-10-2009, 08:27

[I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again."...

I have to say Yonmon, I most certainly am not ASSURED by MrO'Neils statement..............and from the lack of info coming from Fortress Crown, I dont think He is either!

Fatso · 12-10-2009, 09:43

It strikes me that if The DON has got it all sewn up, and come October 28th the taxman will definitely be paid that any delay in the announcement is to ensure that momentum for the SOS appeal is not lost. If he were to announce today that the club will definitely now meet the bill, it would kill the fundraising as, amongst many, there would then be the attitude "well, they've got enough money now; why should I give any more?"

Thus, the later such an announcement is made, the more the SOS campaign can raise...

yonmon · 12-10-2009, 10:05

Then SAY IT DAVE !!!....SAY IT!!!........

'ON STANLEY !!!....ON !!....TO GREATER THINGS !!!!'

maccawozzagod · 12-10-2009, 12:26

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Originally Posted by Fatso

Thus, the later such an announcement is made, the more the SOS campaign can raise...

thus making the shortfall he needs to make up to save 'his' business a smaller one?

this will lose us a lot of friends and is what people (the public) have been afraid of since day one.

Tin Monkey · 12-10-2009, 12:50

I quite agree with this. The directors and chair-people (if that's what they are) should have stumped up their share from day one and led from the front. All this hanging around to see how much all the other people can raise is totally wrong and really puts us in a bad light.

Doug · 12-10-2009, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

I quite agree with this. The directors and chair-people (if that's what they are) should have stumped up their share from day one and led from the front. All this hanging around to see how much all the other people can raise is totally wrong and really puts us in a bad light.

I think the original aim was clearly a public appeal to save the club; then and only if that appeal fell short would the club itself input; this would be in the from of making up the difference prior to payment, not necessarily contribution/donation to the SOS appeal. This could well be the reason you don’t see donations in to the SOS Fund directly across the board from Directors/Chairs has they will have anticipated having to top up the fund before the final outcome was resolved.

Revived Red · 12-10-2009, 13:22

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Originally Posted by Doug

I think the original aim was clearly a public appeal to save the club; then and only if that appeal fell short would the club itself input; this would be in the from of making up the difference prior to payment, not necessarily contribution/donation to the SOS appeal. This could well be the reason you don’t see donations in to the SOS Fund directly across the board from Directors/Chairs has they will have anticipated having to top up the fund before the final outcome was resolved.

Look at macca's post at 13.26. The public appeal was NEVER going to raise over £300,000 in 8 weeks. But what a morale booster it would have been if the powers-that-be could have been seen to be a driving force behind the appeal from the very start, and got the whole thing underway with a substantial initial contribution. You only have to look at so many posts as the weeks have gone by to see the increasing cynicism. In fact, by not even providing regular updates, the club is giving the appearance of hardly bothering at all. The DON could well have been saying "Please can you all help to save my business", thus relying on the emotional commitment to the club that so many of us have, but even that lacked any sort of conviction or commitment to a cause. All that we've had, in effect, is "Don't worry; we'll be ok."

As macca said, the policy is losing us a lot of friends and will continue to do so.

Doug · 12-10-2009, 13:26

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Originally Posted by exiledinwales

No donations to SOS from Directors/Chairs etc of ASFC, no donations to SOS from Directors/Chairs etc of ASSF. Seems to me only people donating are fans and ordinary people. Nobody from club donating and nobody from ASSF donating

Look closely and you will see one or two have donated; at the end of the day if a Director sticks a tenner in he's going to get slated; in a fortnights time when they put up the short fall which is currently £200k their not going to get much better.......

Revived Red · 12-10-2009, 13:27

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Originally Posted by exiledinwales

No donations to SOS from Directors/Chairs etc of ASFC, no donations to SOS from Directors/Chairs etc of ASSF. Seems to me only people donating are fans and ordinary people. Nobody from club donating and nobody from ASSF donating

Sorry, mate, but you are on the wrong path altogether with your words about the ASSF. Not only are they donating (perhaps not mentioned by name on the roll of honour) but they have arranged and are continuing to arrange the vast majority of fundraising events.