toto

ddevil2006 · 10-01-2013, 17:37

gone left the building

mab · 10-01-2013, 17:59

so I see on fishy site strange one really one for the future I thought.

Bentley5 · 10-01-2013, 18:05

presume that Leam has a plan. string of contract info on fishy site; carver, belford and toto.

smudgie · 10-01-2013, 18:52

Huge shock.

Thought he could be as good as anybody if he used his brain.

No doubt an absolute loonatic liability at times.

Outback Ozzy · 10-01-2013, 19:07

Where are our yellow cards going to come from now lmao

FrankMoody · 10-01-2013, 19:12

Toto is obviously too big a personality for our current management team to handle. He has the potential to be a really good defender at this level and above with the right coaching and leadership.

IMO another bizarre decision in a series of bizarre decisions.

accybeme · 10-01-2013, 19:13

I think Toto will mature into a decent player, when Toto played his safe game he was impressive but all too often his flamboyant attitude got the better of him and his errors cost us dearly,
I wish him well

football19 · 10-01-2013, 19:22

Surprised to be honest,got the tools to be a good player,but was lacking between the ears !, hopefully the penny will drop and he carves out a decent career.Attitude and desire is key at this level,no room for egos unfortunately, sometimes young lads think there better than they actually are,although I had high hopes for him to be honest

yonmon · 10-01-2013, 19:59

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Originally Posted by accybeme

I think Toto will mature into a decent player, when Toto played his safe game he was impressive but all too often his flamboyant attitude got the better of him and his errors cost us dearly,
I wish him well

Not to forget his unpredictability !....It is fine to be unpredictable where the need to bamboozle an opponent is concerned..but to have those playing alongside you baffled by your actions,as Toto often did as the looks on his fellow-defenders suggested, doesn't make for sound and sensible defending..I hope that he can inject some steady play into his game and learn to become part of a defensive unit instead of relying on his own efforts...if so, he has I believe a
sound future in the game.

Reamer · 10-01-2013, 20:48

In the present circumstances I think this is a wise decision. Who knows if Toto can mature into a dependable defender but I don't think Stanley have the resources or the time to invest in him at the minute. As others have said he's a bit of a loose cannon and what we need is a solid reliable pairing at the heart of our defence to help us get points and climb the table. It will be interesting to see if anyone else in league two takes a chance with Toto. Suspect he might end up in lower league footy to begin with

lancsdave · 10-01-2013, 20:52

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Originally Posted by FrankMoody

Toto is obviously too big a personality for our current management team to handle. He has the potential to be a really good defender at this level and above with the right coaching and leadership.

IMO another bizarre decision in a series of bizarre decisions.

He was a League 2 player for Accrington Stanley not Mario Ballowhatisname

Players don't get mutually agreed terminations unless they are total failures or something else has gone on which isn't made public.

Revived Red · 10-01-2013, 21:44

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Originally Posted by FrankMoody

Toto is obviously too big a personality for our current management team to handle. He has the potential to be a really good defender at this level and above with the right coaching and leadership.

IMO another bizarre decision in a series of bizarre decisions.

There seem to be one or two recent hints, Frank, that you are not over keen on our management team.

FrankMoody · 10-01-2013, 21:57

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Originally Posted by Revived Red

There seem to be one or two recent hints, Frank, that you are not over keen on our management team.

Haha, looking back I think you're right I seem to be on a mission!!!

I'm really frustrated and scared that we could be heading for dark times, but probably time to keep my opinions to myself and stop being a doom-monger!!!

Bring in the shots (aldershot not a drinking bender)

Jeg Red · 11-01-2013, 20:44

Good decision in my view as may also free up money for other uses. Wish Toto all the best as I think he has all the ingredients to make a really solid player at at least at this level. On his day, he's been great but is too unpredictable and whether playing alongside or watching, your heart is in your mouth too many times, not sure what going to happen yet. Hasn't seemed to learn from his mistakes.

Maybe in another environment he can fulfil his potential as may be a case on wrong place wrong time with Stanley.

Big personality. Good luck, lad.

DAV007 · 12-01-2013, 21:23

I understand he was on decent money?