Transfer embargo

[Grimps]

don time .open door and go i smel to much bull sh..

[Exile on Spencer St]

If I understand it correctly, the missing accounts are for the year before Messrs Khan-Marsden et al had to intervene to save the club. And Pierce & Co were brought following that intervention to look into the previous financial 'arrangements' at the club.
Presumably the accountants have not yet been able to put together an acceptable, independent 'account' of what was going on at Stanley in the year leading up to last autumn's debacle.
The only hope around this latest shambles is that, at long last, it provides Messrs Khan and Marsden with some hard evidence of the financial irregularities that have plagued the club during the previous ten or so years, and nearly killed it less than twelve months ago.
If it does, let's hope they can act on the evidence and bring some honesty and integrity to the running of the club.

[Long time red]

I have only ever spoken to Mr Khan once, and that was when I rang him to discuss a revenue stream that our present day Commercial Dept had let lapse. I found him to be very open and his comments regarding the MD & CEO were to say the least not very complementary. The next thing is that they are still here and continuing to drag the clubs reutation down again.
Get someone in who knows the business, someone who will get off their Arses and raise both the profile of the club and money to make us self sufficient. Automated ( maybe not the right word) ticketing we dont need, other commercial activities such as the Store, Weekly Draw etc will bring in money 12 months a year. First priority should be getting the existing Manager tied down on a deal, Imagine this. "Hi I am the Manager of ASFC would you like to sign for us for the coming season" Player " thanks what are your plans and ambitions" JC " Not sure I may nort be there" Come on get it sorted.

[sameoldstory]

Yawn! All this negativity towards the way the club is being run is getting a little tedious to be honest....too many people are quick to blame David and Rob for the way things are being run, yet I don't see anyone looking at the way Eric Whalley ran the club...remember him? - the man who jumped ship and left us to it as soon as the tax problem reared it's ugly head leaving other people to clear up a mess that HE created!!

Yes David and Rob are in charge of the day to day running of the club, but it's hard to do that when the ball is constantly being moved from under your feet, for example the LEGi money. When it became clear that the money would not be recieved as expected then lots of juggling around will have taken place and sacrifices will have been made in order for other pressing things to be paid for - the pitch and improvement work to the ground being top of the list. And it was Ilyas (and not certain others) who told the council that the funding was no longer needed, but to the best of my knowledge has hasn't come forward with any replacement funds. Perhaps he can clairfy things? He's been a bit quiet on here lately......

My point is that everyone is in the same boat. We aren't the only football club that are having a rough time of things recently. I just appeal for a bit of calm and stop playing the blame game as it isn't getting anyone anywhere. The season will be starting in six weeks time and the FA will start paying out parachute payments again, and we will have money coming in. It's hard to keep paying out all the time when you haven't got anything coming in.

[cashman]

prats like you are tedious, its not hard at all to be straight wi people n not decieve, thats what brasses people off, but some are too dense to see that.

[Stanleymad]

Why isnt oneil trying to explain & keeping transparency then? Oneil says he wont invest further in the club & eric well dont get me started! I understand its eric original mess THAT oneil CHOSEN to take over, so unfortunately has chosen the rough with the smooth and as he's in charge & owt goes wrong he will be blamed - nature of the job im afraid!

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by sameoldstory

Yawn! All this negativity towards the way the club is being run is getting a little tedious to be honest....too many people are quick to blame David and Rob for the way things are being run, yet I don't see anyone looking at the way Eric Whalley ran the club...remember him? - the man who jumped ship and left us to it as soon as the tax problem reared it's ugly head leaving other people to clear up a mess that HE created!!

Yes David and Rob are in charge of the day to day running of the club, but it's hard to do that when the ball is constantly being moved from under your feet, for example the LEGi money. When it became clear that the money would not be recieved as expected then lots of juggling around will have taken place and sacrifices will have been made in order for other pressing things to be paid for - the pitch and improvement work to the ground being top of the list. And it was Ilyas (and not certain others) who told the council that the funding was no longer needed, but to the best of my knowledge has hasn't come forward with any replacement funds. Perhaps he can clairfy things? He's been a bit quiet on here lately......

My point is that everyone is in the same boat. We aren't the only football club that are having a rough time of things recently. I just appeal for a bit of calm and stop playing the blame game as it isn't getting anyone anywhere. The season will be starting in six weeks time and the FA will start paying out parachute payments again, and we will have money coming in. It's hard to keep paying out all the time when you haven't got anything coming in.

We were told at the Fans Forum that the LEGI money was already in place but we hadn't even applied for it. There was no way that we were going to get any LEGI money the state that the Club was in. We were told at the Fans Forum that we would have a ground sponsor and that offers were on the table and it was just a case of deciding on the right offer for the sponsorship. Are we still deciding on the right offer for the sponsorship ? I guess that we will decide "early next week" or "in the next couple of weeks". What have parachute payments got to do with us - have we been relegated ? We know that Whalley left the Club in a mess but Heys was the CEO at the time and is still the CEO. What about the new transparency at the Club. We are told that we have received a "six figure sum" for Bobby Grant. How much is that "six figure sum" ? We know that it could rise to £260,000 with add-ons. What are the conditions of the add-ons ? How much is the sell on clause ? It has been stated that one of the add on clauses is that we get more money if Scunthorpe get promoted to the Premiership. What is the point of that add on clause, there is no chance that they will be promoted, more chance of relegation. The only updates and pictures of the pitch improvements are on this forum. How long does it take to upload a photo onto the fishy site to keep fans up to date ? People at the Club are obviously too busy preparing things for "early next week".

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by sameoldstory

Perhaps he can clairfy things? He's been a bit quiet on here lately......

Perhaps that might have something to do with the fact that he's actually stepped down from his position now. As for his "quietness" it's nothing compared to the resounding silence from Mr O'Neill.

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by sameoldstory

for example the LEGi money. When it became clear that the money would not be recieved as expected then lots of juggling around will have taken place and sacrifices will have been made in order for other pressing things to be paid for - the pitch and improvement work to the ground being top of the list.

Why would "lots of juggling around" have to have taken place and "sacrifices have been made" ? The LEGI money was to re-develop the Coppice end, nothing to do with the pitch improvement work. 'Sameoldstory' I note that this is your first post - are you Heys and O'Neill in disguise ? If you are then you have adopted an apt name as all we get from Heys and O'Neill is the "same old story"

[Long time red]

Originally Posted by sameoldstory

Yawn! All this negativity towards the way the club is being run is getting a little tedious to be honest....too many people are quick to blame David and Rob for the way things are being run, yet I don't see anyone looking at the way Eric Whalley ran the club...remember him? - the man who jumped ship and left us to it as soon as the tax problem reared it's ugly head leaving other people to clear up a mess that HE created!!

Yes David and Rob are in charge of the day to day running of the club, but it's hard to do that when the ball is constantly being moved from under your feet, for example the LEGi money. When it became clear that the money would not be recieved as expected then lots of juggling around will have taken place and sacrifices will have been made in order for other pressing things to be paid for - the pitch and improvement work to the ground being top of the list. And it was Ilyas (and not certain others) who told the council that the funding was no longer needed, but to the best of my knowledge has hasn't come forward with any replacement funds. Perhaps he can clairfy things? He's been a bit quiet on here lately......

My point is that everyone is in the same boat. We aren't the only football club that are having a rough time of things recently. I just appeal for a bit of calm and stop playing the blame game as it isn't getting anyone anywhere. The season will be starting in six weeks time and the FA will start paying out parachute payments again, and we will have money coming in. It's hard to keep paying out all the time when you haven't got anything coming in.

My concern is for the future of the club. Erics money got us into the Football League make no mistake about that. Illyas & Peter Marsden + 1000@ of others kept us in the League. We are now employing more people who's job it is to raise sufficient funds to keep us there. A simple business question to be asked by the management is are they covering their cost I doubt it. I also think that there are things that should remain inside of the club and not in the public domain ie Grants fee.

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by Long time red

I also think that there are things that should remain inside of the club and not in the public domain ie Grants fee.

We were promised transparency. Why should the amount of Grant's fee remain inside the club and not in the public domain. We want to know if we have got a good deal or have we been sold down the river. We all did our best with our donations to keep Heys and O'Neill in a job and now we need to know if they are doing their best in return or settling for second best just to get a bit of money in the bank.

[Exile on Spencer St]

[quote=sameoldstory;824261]Yawn! All this negativity towards the way the club is being run is getting a little tedious to be honest...

I accept what you say about the mess inherited from the cardboard millionaire, but a company that isn't able to file its accounts suggests it's still being run badly.

As for Grant's fee, one source suggests it's half the touted sum.
Accrington Stanley - Six figure fee and unrealistic clauses for Grant
But I suspect your right, Jeff, that whatever was offered has been accepted in some desperation to get some money into the club's coffers.

[cashman]

In my opinion "Same Old Story" anyone attempting to defend the indefensible,is either completly stupid,or in cohoots wi the terrible 2, which are you?

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by cashman

In my opinion "Same Old Story" anyone attempting to defend the indefensible,is either completly stupid,or in cohoots wi the terrible 2, which are you?

Don't think you will get an answer Cashy. Sameoldstory just joined today and has had that one post. Will probably just crawl back under the stone he came from after trying to defend Heys and O'Neill. As I said before it's probably Heys or O'Neill, more likely to be Heys as O'Neill never has anything to say.

[Exile on Spencer St]

Originally Posted by JEFF

Don't think you will get an answer Cashy. ... O'Neill never has anything to say.

He's saving it for 'next week'.