Ultras & Flag Poles - Page 3

Willie Miller · 21-02-2010, 18:16

The ground is non smoking now though

K.S.H · 21-02-2010, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad

are the ones sold in clubshop stamped with fire retarded material

Probably not but I'll make sure I check all my clothing before the next home game

Chimer · 21-02-2010, 18:19

Out of touch yesterday, delighted with the result and came home keen to read the board and share in the joy .... and found this thread and the one about the crest. Talk about down to earth with a bump

alfiered · 21-02-2010, 22:49

Having listened to the conversation between Jase and the stewards and having talked to them myself it was apparent that the stewards were only following orders regarding the 'removal' of flag poles. And although i'm in agreement that on many occasions this season the stewards have been 'over the top' in their approach I would also suggest that they may have been following orders/guidelines on many of these occasions also.
Either the stewards are doing their own thing and if so should be brought into line or the instruction from MS is either inappropriate for the circumstances or lost in translation. Whatever the scenario surely its up to the club to address the situation quickly in order to avoid losing punters that it can ill afford to lose. Ilyas calls it transparacy, in Saturday's case I believe the word is communication! If the club had had the forsight to discuss their concerns regarding flagpoles (prior to the match) directly with one of their most loyal supporters i'm sure a positive solution for all would have been found, it may have also assisted in building relations with the stewards.

cashman · 21-02-2010, 23:02

i agree alfie but following orders is one thing, behaving like the gestapo is another.

Oldgobbin · 21-02-2010, 23:47

Isn't it time for a "transparent" statement from Mick Schultz? At the moment, the stewards seem to be hiding behind him, whilst he, in turn, is hiding behind them! SOMEBODY knows what's going on and, he is the guy in charge, so I would request that he make a statement, either on here or on the fishy site, to tell fans where he stands and what the official policy is, whether it be flagpoles or foul-mouthed abusers in areas of the ground where they ought not to be. I, for one, am not completely convinced by him, but I am perfectly willing to listen to his point of view. Time to come out of hiding, I think, Mick.

DAV007 · 22-02-2010, 08:01

Posted via Mobile Device the stewards arent daft and want to show who is boss. Possibly little man syndrome?

entwisi · 22-02-2010, 08:14

Not flag related but I took Siobhan on the Morecambe game, here first ever time at a match. Now its been a while since I was last able to go and foolish/sheepidly we went in the main stand when I wanted to take her in with the Ultras for the full experience...

went to move through to behind the goal and was told " No, you can't come through", "'Elf and safety mate", so when a dozen or so people went through I asked why they are allowed, " Junior team mate and girlfriends", so whats different in "elf and Safety with them being allowed through and not us I ask? "

"Its so we don't get too many in the stand!"

err... it was 2/3rd full at best and he still had no idea of how many 'extra' he'd let through... would he let us through? no way...

someone gave the man an ounce of power and it clearly went to his head.

Neil · 22-02-2010, 08:44

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Originally Posted by entwisi

someone gave the man an ounce of power and it clearly went to his head.

Will you be taking her again or did the idiot in question put you off?

It looks like the stewards (the club in effect) need reminding they are a little team from a little town and without supporters they are nothing.

loweiy · 22-02-2010, 09:37

Off the field the support is growing for the reds and the ultras have certainly helped in the climb up the table. The Clayton end is awash with colour, loud with song and bursting with pride. However there are one or two cracks appearing in the relationship between the stewards and the crowd. I call for a public meeting in the club house with Mick Shultz, the police, Lancashire county council, all fans groups who stand/sit on the Clayton end, and all other parties who have jurisdiction over the match day running of the stand. Yes all sides need to co-operate to make the ground safe as well as happy, but I will not have the old cliché that rules are rules trotted out again as a cover for lack of open dialogue. We have visited grounds all across the land and up and down the leagues and the one thing we can report back is that there is no constancy with how the rules are interpreted. Maybe if the police and LCC talk directly to the rate payers who use the stand then we can reach some agreement. One thing is for sure things cannot go on as they are and open talks can only be a good thing for the club. Perhaps we need to speed up the share issue that was talked about in the last share holders meeting this would allow all fans to buy shares for a reasonable amount and then attend, vote and veto plans in the proposed future shareholders meetings, just a thought!.

MICK (SHULTZ) you have asked us for help many times and we always come through now its your turn.

Loweiy

lukeogtfc · 22-02-2010, 09:56

Absolute disgrace. From an outside point of view when you hear the words "Accrington Stanley" straight away you think "Stanley Ultras" "flags" "scarves" "mental" "passionate"... I'm very upset if this is the case and you guys lose your flags.

entwisi · 22-02-2010, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Neil

Will you be taking her again or did the idiot in question put you off?

It looks like the stewards (the club in effect) need reminding they are a little team from a little town and without supporters they are nothing.

I will take her again although she also wants to 'try' Rovers ( her auntie has promised to take here there.... )

he was a prat and needs telling to apply some common sensea nd if he's lacking in that he shoudl ask someone who does have some.

smudgie · 22-02-2010, 14:50

Well said lowey.

Meeting is certainly needed

cashman · 22-02-2010, 15:54

well know fer fact "Mick" reads the forum, so how about it Mick?

Nickelson · 22-02-2010, 16:56

Hate to post this guys. However a couple of lads who I see myself in hi-vis at Stanley. I know for a fact are under 18. Which im sure is against some law. So your right about there being young ones.