vs Oldham - Page 10

shakermaker · 04-09-2007, 22:54

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Originally Posted by DAV007

no i havent.

we all know about Lee.

his strengths and weaknesses.

Miles in every game i have been to (thats all the league games and LDV) has been carried by the team. He does not work hard, he does not look interested and offers little going forward. His crossing is terrible.
I think miles is a waste of time.
As did 99% of the macclesfield fans.

Im sorry - but they guy does nothing. we where one sided in the second half until he went off.

John Miles clearly wants to prove himself, and he did look a bit more lively tonight. He's not the quickest player to ever be put on the wing which is why he may seem lazy, but he was getting about a bit. (Which is more than I can say for Shaun Whalley.)

Now, the difference with Lee McEvilly is that he was given a chance and threw it back in everyone's face. His actions have been nothing short of disgusting. He should be bundled up in a sack and thrown from the nearest canal bridge... metaphorically speaking of course

Jesus_was_A_red_ · 04-09-2007, 22:56

Dsane was the only good thing to come out of that performance. 2-0 up at half-time was only too good to be true. We had several legitimate claims for penalties in the second half, one that was absoultely blatant with mcgivern being pushed flat on his face from behind. But they had players that ran single handley ran through our 6 man defence/ midfield on 6 to 8 occasions. I thought the defence was weak,poor,unprofessional,uncoached and unorganised. Dunbavin dosent give the same sort of confidence to the back 4 as Kenny does either. Big improvements are needed and a few kicks up the backside because on that second half performance its no wonder that people wont pay to watch this sunday league displays. Centre midfield is a big concern too it looks empty every time i watch stanley. Whos fault is it???????? The defence, The midfield, the goalkeeper, the strikers, the coaching staff, the team selector, the chairman, the fans, the pitch, the referee or lady luck?
2 year old problems have not been resolved for me. No names metioned.

baldy · 04-09-2007, 23:03

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Originally Posted by DAV007

no i havent.

we all know about Lee.

his strengths and weaknesses.

Miles in every game i have been to (thats all the league games and LDV) has been carried by the team. He does not work hard, he does not look interested and offers little going forward. His crossing is terrible.
I think miles is a waste of time.
As did 99% of the macclesfield fans.

Im sorry - but they guy does nothing. we where one sided in the second half until he went off.

The team had carried Lee since the start of the season, and he has done nothing!

1 thing comparing Miles and "Big Mac" no pun intended

is that Miles is not a Thug!!

Bagpuss · 04-09-2007, 23:06

Lee McEvilly, Lee McEvilly you're too fat to wear the shirt, you're too fat to wear the shirt !!!

DAV007 · 04-09-2007, 23:06

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

John Miles clearly wants to prove himself, and he did look a bit more lively tonight.

he was rubbish tonight

and hasnt shown a glimps of wanting to prove himself

what is he exactly trying to prove - he is in his late 20's, released by liverpool long ago.

99% of macclesfield fans cant be wrong.

i have watched him play in the flesh on 5 occasions - not once has he showed he has the ability or gives a damn about stanley.

shakermaker · 04-09-2007, 23:21

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Originally Posted by DAV007

he was rubbish tonight and hasnt shown a glimps of wanting to prove himself

I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

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Originally Posted by DAV007

99% of macclesfield fans cant be wrong.

You done a survery yourself then?

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Originally Posted by DAV007

i have watched him play in the flesh on 5 occasions - not once has he showed he has the ability or gives a damn about stanley.

How about the City game?
He knocked in a peach of a cross for McEvilly. It didn't go in.

All footballers are patchy in form mate, give him a chance. It isn't like he has let down the whole club with his antics like stamping fatso McEvilly has. Even Phil Edwards, hailed by quite a few people as Stanley's best defender has not played well at all when selected this season.

I fail to see how you can think Miles is more of a problem than Lee McEvilly?

Oggy · 04-09-2007, 23:21

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Originally Posted by DAV007

My only fear for saturday is Mullins will be tired, he work non stop tonight.

Paul always does, but carries on where he left off the next game, and it's Mullin BTW, thought the first few times it was a typo but it's starting to get on my nerves now. As for you campaign against Miles, well you're entitled to your opinion I suppose, but it's hardly supportive.

Must admit your match reports are like being able to read the Echo again, I'd forgotten how bad that was.

DAV007 · 04-09-2007, 23:33

we shall see.

i think evil will come good by the end of October if give another chance.

yes he was out of order - but he will no longer have colemans backing, will need to work extra hard to get back in the team.

As for miles - well i hope im wrong, but i expect by the end of October - i wont be the only one questioning his commitment.

I just want stanley players to give their all - that all.
Miles hasnt and does not do his fair share.

cart-on · 04-09-2007, 23:36

you know quite a lot about him dont you,were do you know him from

maccawozzagod · 05-09-2007, 00:21

my version then:

Bavs - did nothing for me at all. a dropped easy catch to lay iton for their first goal. then stayed rooted to his spot too long for their second. Can't really remember the third so won't comment but he made no saves to speak of, made no commands of his area and his kicking/throwing was neither here nor there. Has nothing more tho offfer than Fearon but Fearo is young and learning and would have got more out of tonight and should be number 2 from on.

The defence - looked good and composed in the first half - what happened? They didn't get near most balls in the air for a start!

The midfield - again first half they looked cohesive and composed. Second half shame Boco went off with a possible hamstrign problem. Proctor (contrary to others) I thought still did okay but his long range passes were slightly off. Brown made some intelligent passes and runs but left gaps on his defensive duties. Which brings me to Miles, in pre-season I saw him make some brilliant dribbles a la 2nd half against Leicester, he did that once tonight but ran down a dark alley. Too often he was lightweight in the tackle, the closing down and got nowhere near headers. Whalley did nowt in his limited spell

Upfront - I'll start with Mullin cos as you all know I am a fan. But today was never going to be his day. The refereree give him nothing all game and warned him once or twice about trying to shake off the defender! Eventually the ref had had enough of watching Mullin get bundled over every two minutes so booked him. That tells its own story. Nut worse was that from the point of the Clayton End, Mullin was having a bad game, not his fault particularly but every decision went against him. The substitution was a tiring Dsane for Mcgivern whilst a clearly ineffetive, foul conceding (wrongly again every time) Paul Mullin stayed on. REST THE GUY, PLAY A DIFFERENT GAME SOMETIMES.

Roscoe was the major plus point today. A small lad with no weight about him but he pulled their defence all over the place today. He was sharp, inventive and the goal he scored was from nothing. He must start on saturday.

The referee. What was he on? all home fans are biased - its in the rules of the game, but this plonker was candidate for the dick of the year. The foul on Dsane in the first half - clean through, bearing down on the keeper one on one and thwack. He gives the foul but their player didn't even get booked! LAST MAN, DENIED CLEAR GOAL SCORING OPPORTUNITY what bit of this do I not understand? All right he was theeee last man cos of the goalkeeper but as I had understood the guy had to go??????

The foul on McGivern - blatantly pushed over and the linesman flags (he had a clear unobstructed view) but the referee, from an angle and through a crowd, decided not to consult! Throughout the 2nd half he continued to bewilder the home crowd with his decisions from outer space. The guy is a knob and if Premiership officials can request that a referee is not welcome than so can we.

I accept that most fans only see the decisions given aginst their team, but we have two in five days that could cost people their jobs or maybe even ultimately the club, their life.

smudgie · 05-09-2007, 08:54

well im not as disappointed as the posh game last week.

Brown and dsane for me where the major plus points and they must start on saturday.

Edwards also needs to start he looked eager to impress and must replace robbie tho it wont happen as we all know.

Dunbavin is not good enough its as simple as, but he is the number 2 and theres nothing that can be done about it till the end of the season.

Oldgobbin · 05-09-2007, 09:12

I agree with Macca about the goalkeeping situation. I said this last year - DunSavin' is not, has not been, and never will be good enough at this level - or any other reasonably high level for that matter. He has no command of his area, he dithers, he panics the defence and, above all, costs us matches!
A win last night would have and could have put us in the right frame of mind for Saturday. Instead, Coley, for reasons known to himself, leaves out the guy who is fast becoming a legend and replaces him with a player who sets back the confidence of the defence to last season's levels. I tend, generally speaking, to back Coley's decisions, but this one I cannot understand. Winning is a habit, as, unfortunately, is losing. Last night gave us a real opportunity to stop the losing habit - unfortunately it was an opportunity spurned, in order to give a "has-been" or "never-will-be"goalkeeper the chance of a game. As Macca said, we would be far better off with Fearon, young as he is, as our No 2 keeper.

lancsdave · 05-09-2007, 10:01

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

Was it lard arse Gregan who conceded the penalty by any chance ?

Just read the match report on the BBC and guess what .. I was right

shakermaker · 05-09-2007, 10:48

I've read all the complaints about the ref but I can't say he was that bad overall.
I thought he only made 2 maybe 3 mistakes in total which were all in the second half; which coincided with our lacklustre performance which is why it may seem everything was against us.
For the majority of the game the ref made very good decisions.
He was no way as bad as his dismal performance away at Hartlepool.

leedsacca · 05-09-2007, 11:46

As a neutral I went to the game last night. From what I saw the lad upfront was very lively (Dsane??) and was causing a few problems for the Oldham back four. But the glaring problem was the big punt upfield by Oldham straight to the Accrington centre halves who seemed unable to clear their lines, this happened time and time again and as a pairing were getting run ragged and were not good enough.

I don't think the liner/ref helped the cause by there inability to send the Oldham player off in the 1st half for the foul when Dsane was clean through. Oh n need I mention the penalty in the 2nd half, the liner flags then paps himself I wouldn't mind but the ref was miles away and should've consulted the liner/cheat....