What do we need? - Page 2

confused · 25-10-2004, 11:20

howson has done nothing wrong since joining stanley so why is he not playing.
maybe someone that is connected to the club could ask coleman on behalf of the fans.
after all he does have a lot of league experience and is only 23.

Henry Morton · 25-10-2004, 11:46

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Originally Posted by Redskin

Why do we criticise individuals who have differing opinions to ourselves?

It appears to me that unfortunately you very quickly become persecuted if you are deemed to be holding an opinion that differs to “the forum veterans”

It’s only an opinion…………..for the record I do not support the ideal of dismissing the management team, however I accept the comment as a point for discussion.

I'm not interested in criticising anyone for an opinion ; differing opinions are the life blood of any forum - and for what it's worth, Redskin, my opinions on footballing matters seem very similar to yours.

What I'm criticising is an attitude. I don't wish to see an agent provocateur posing hypothetical questions in order to create division. This is straight out of the Machiavellian Operator's Manual. This forum is being dragged down in a sea of pointless and tabloidal "What ifs" which are driving out reasoned and intelligent discussion ; I believe that it would be quite wrong not to comment upon this alarming trend.

As to what constitutes a "forum veteran" . . . count the posts, and you'll see who the real veterans are. Or are you alluding to what you perceive to be my age ?

Tin Monkey · 25-10-2004, 12:09

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Originally Posted by Henry Morton

As to what constitutes a "forum veteran" . . . count the posts, and you'll see who the real veterans are. Or are you alluding to what you perceive to be my age ?

I don't see what post counts have to do with it Henry. I see a few members with rapidly increasing post counts, who have yet to post anything approaching worthwhile.

Quantity does not equate to quality!

Redraine · 25-10-2004, 12:12

And we let Hollis go...............
Barmy!

JEFF · 25-10-2004, 12:55

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It is frustrating that we can be solid for 90 minutes down at Aldershot one week and then leak four goals just seven days later at Scarborough.

Quote frtom Paul Cook on the official site. Does Mr. Cook not realise that Alsershot did not have any recognised strikers playing against us. Tim Sills and Roscoe D'Sane were both out injured. I don't remember Aldershot having an attempt on target. So instead of our defence being "magnificent" I think it should be that Aldershot were rubbish, and we still played with only one striker in spite of the fact that the defence were not going to be under any pressure.

rishton · 25-10-2004, 13:40

I admit i know what coleman has done for stanley in the last 6 years but in my ophion this year they have done nothing (apart form the first few games) to suggest that they are title challengers and going on recent performances if they did go up through the playoffs i feel they could be were shrewsbury are in league two

Whalley Red · 25-10-2004, 14:43

Sounds like we need a return of the "questions for the club"

Will Kipax come out of retirement for this?

JEFF · 25-10-2004, 16:19

And now Lutel has been put up for sale or loan. Have we spent too much on players wages and cannot afford to pay ? I wonder.

rishton · 25-10-2004, 17:11

Possibly as there was something in sundays nlp about attendances and it had ours as about 200 down an last season (somebody else do the maths) and the performances and results generally this season have done nothing to encourage the people of accrington to come and watch us

RossendaleRed · 25-10-2004, 20:08

I have said this before but I thought Howson looked good on the pitch, but as I have said before maybe he does not train well or does not put the effort in when asked to in training!

confused · 26-10-2004, 19:40

Red,what a stupid post.Any player trains hard to try an impress so that they are picked to play.NO player wants to be on the bench or left out .
Let`s not forget at this level results and playing make the bread and butter.With Howson rumoured to be one of the lower paid I am sure he train`s just as hard if not harder than some who are more or less guaranteed a start,even after poor match performances.
Since he hasn`t played the results have been poor.When he did play we won 4 drew 2.
Looks to me like the wrong player might have been blamed.
Wasn`t he Colemans first signing.What for ? !!!!!!!!!!

Outback Ozzy · 26-10-2004, 19:59

Hey come on guys and gals, all teams have a seasonal blip and this happens to be ours. Lets not forget that the other teams around us Carlisle and Barnet excepted have all had blips as well so we are still there or there abouts. The cry for the managements heads is a little unfair, but if we caontinue in the current vein of form, then it may become more realistic. Lets face it, Jim Harvey's head was being called for prior to our visit to Morecambe earlier this season and we did not help his cause. He is still in position as far as I am aware and his team have improved no end. Even Northwich Vics have improved no end with a 10 point deduction in there points total. Lets get behind the team and the management and hopefully things will turn around sooner rather than later. Hopefully Mr Howson will come back a stronger player for his loan spell and assist the defence once more. Personally (and this is only my opinion) I would rather see Hacker being lent out for a while, although he does appear to be a better and cleaner player when he has played this season. (purely to build up his match fitness). I for one would like to see the return of Stuart Bimpson from Cambridge, and I know he wants to come back, if the terms are right for him and his family.

baldy · 26-10-2004, 20:56

i am 101% behind coleys and jimmys decisions and theres only 3 points between 3rd and 8th so why we all panicking that coley and jimmy are doing a terrible job

and for you accystankev you are such a hypocrit

simon · 26-10-2004, 21:35

Outback Ozzy you have a point about Bimson... Since he went back we have been in this RUT !! Just coincidence???? maybe.. But if he is keen to come and help out . I thought he was a very good player

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Smiffy16 · 26-10-2004, 21:38

Yes I rated Bimson but there were certain aspects of his game that I didnt and I know other supporters didnt like, one of which was his positional play and marking off the ball.

I'd prefer Stuart Howson back at left back and as Ozzy I hope he comes back even stronger.