Wombles match thread - Page 2

Lord Stiffupperlip · 08-12-2021, 17:15

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN

I think you can blame all those things Exile, for a terrible game, but it was the same for both.....
Something is wrong fundamentally - just not sure what

Can I suggest:
1. Lack of quality
2. Predictable game plan
3. Inability to change tactics when things go wrong.

Twenty Eight · 08-12-2021, 17:25

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Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip

Can I suggest:
1. Lack of quality
2. Predictable game plan
3. Inability to change tactics when things go wrong.

Your Lordship,
Who signed the players responsible for the lack of quality ?
Who selects the game plan ?
Who is responsible for changing tactics ?

On point one caused by the budget ?

Lord Stiffupperlip · 08-12-2021, 17:41

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight

Your Lordship,
Who signed the players responsible for the lack of quality ?
Who selects the game plan ?
Who is responsible for changing tactics ?

On point one caused by the budget ?

Exactly!

cashman · 08-12-2021, 18:12

no manager could defy our budget that is not his fault as far as im concerned.the other two yes.

andyd · 08-12-2021, 18:50

Budget really controlled by a big extent by how many paying customers we have we are bottom of the table by some way on average attendance so whoever decides the rest will always be limited by budget,s here.

Twenty Eight · 08-12-2021, 19:09

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Originally Posted by andyd

Budget really controlled by a big extent by how many paying customers we have we are bottom of the table by some way on average attendance so whoever decides the rest will always be limited by budget,s here.

So nothing to do with renovations or has that money just appeared out of the ether ?
Don't want to go down the same old path again but for the record I don't think as a club we've got the balance right between the product on the pitch and off the pitch.

Twenty Eight · 08-12-2021, 19:12

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Originally Posted by cashman

no manager could defy our budget that is not his fault as far as im concerned.the other two yes.

Coley has swum the channel on numerous occasions and uncovered a few nuggets but inevitably it was going to catch up with him.

cashman · 08-12-2021, 19:15

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight

Coley has swum the channel on numerous occasions and uncovered a few nuggets but inevitably it was going to catch up with him.

thats pretty obvious to me it would with any manager.

Lord Stiffupperlip · 08-12-2021, 19:16

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Originally Posted by andyd

Budget really controlled by a big extent by how many paying customers we have we are bottom of the table by some way on average attendance so whoever decides the rest will always be limited by budgets here.

All perfectly true my friend.
But the question posed by Valairian was that 'something is fundamentally wrong?
Of course we're limited by the budget available, but it doesn't alter the fact that a lack of player quality is the main reason we will always struggle to compete with most teams at this level.
We're punching well above our weight just to survive in this division.

andyd · 08-12-2021, 20:07

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight

So nothing to do with renovations or has that money just appeared out of the ether ?
Don't want to go down the same old path again but for the record I don't think as a club we've got the balance right between the product on the pitch and off the pitch.

Renovation,s are completely separate from playing budget and are in the main going to be a one off that when finished will hopefully benefit the community for the foreseeable, the football is what it is you win some you lose some we won the Conference on a limited budget and league 2 it's been a great ride let's see were it ends.

Crown Grounder · 08-12-2021, 23:40

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight

Coley has swum the channel on numerous occasions and uncovered a few nuggets but inevitably it was going to catch up with him.

Whoaaaa.......hang on there a second ......All true BUT.....we are only 21 games in.....and mid-tableish with 27 points.......lets not write us off quite yet! .....There's still plenty of points to play for.......the January window to come.......and still at least half a dozen teams I wouldn't swap either manager with or squads.........facilities improving all the time.......that's down to Holty........but don't give up on Coley yet. I may not always agree with him, but I'll back him all the way.........AND Holty will support him....cos he's a Stanley fan deep down. I've no doubt about that........

andyd · 09-12-2021, 09:05

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Originally Posted by Crown Grounder

Whoaaaa.......hang on there a second ......All true BUT.....we are only 21 games in.....and mid-tableish with 27 points.......lets not write us off quite yet! .....There's still plenty of points to play for.......the January window to come.......and still at least half a dozen teams I wouldn't swap either manager with or squads.........facilities improving all the time.......that's down to Holty........but don't give up on Coley yet. I may not always agree with him, but I'll back him all the way.........AND Holty will support him....cos he's a Stanley fan deep down. I've no doubt about that........

The stats say we are a mid table side injuries haven't helped and also to me a couple of seniors are at the end of their best and it's starting to show good window and players back and these seniors can take a well deserved back seat.

monkey hanger · 09-12-2021, 10:35

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Originally Posted by cashman

no manager could defy our budget that is not his fault as far as im concerned.the other two yes.

and would we be talking about the whole subject anyway if the two headers had gone in. its less than a week since stanley put 5 past fleetwood and we still have a good cushion on the bottom 4. if stanley had won i suppose the talk would be about the ourside chance of the play offs.

VALAIRIAN · 09-12-2021, 11:40

Fleetwood game papered over the cracks MH, we have struggled all season to score goals and not concede goals.......

Twenty Eight · 09-12-2021, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Crown Grounder

Whoaaaa.......hang on there a second ......All true BUT.....we are only 21 games in.....and mid-tableish with 27 points.......lets not write us off quite yet! .....There's still plenty of points to play for.......the January window to come.......and still at least half a dozen teams I wouldn't swap either manager with or squads.........facilities improving all the time.......that's down to Holty........but don't give up on Coley yet. I may not always agree with him, but I'll back him all the way.........AND Holty will support him....cos he's a Stanley fan deep down. I've no doubt about that........

Where does it say I've written them off ?
I haven't given up on the gaffer in fact if you read correctly what I've said I am sympathetic to his plight re "quality"
Ultimately you get what you pay for.
What Coley has achieved in season's past - but hasn't done this time - is exceeded what he's paid for.
Not this season.