Wycombe game - Page 4

new red · 04-09-2010, 17:27

Good for Boulding to open his account. Coley should be happy with a point in a game we could have easily lost.

theresonlyoneaccy · 04-09-2010, 17:35

How lovely of Boulding to score his first goal and keep us unbeaten, shame about the Wycombe goal. Overall I'd say it was a fair result, we had as many chances as each other.

shakermaker · 04-09-2010, 17:37

cashman · 04-09-2010, 17:56

Thought overall a game of 2 halves, stanley 1st half, wycombe 2nd, draw was about right, most pleasing to me was the way the reds never gave up, think in previous seasons would have lost, the spirit is tremendous n down to coley imho, would hope he told em well done at the end, 2 good sides in a good game,as n aside still cannot comprehend how Turner don't get a start, beats the crap outa me.

onward n upward though reds.

Outback Ozzy · 04-09-2010, 18:13

Fair assessments by all today. As stated, minutes silence for Coxy was impeccable, shame that bloody ice cream van was driving through the estate at the back of the Whinney Hill terrace. Of the performance, I think Coxy would be proud of Stanley tonight. Yes we could and perhaps should have scored in the first half, but fair do's Wycombe had the lions share of the second half, but the team never gave up, right up to the last minute of added on time. Though there may have been a few more today, but 1,600+ not bad. With no premiership and championship games, thought a few more Rovers and Burnley fans would have come to get their weekly fix. All in all a good game. Not over enamoured with the officials, should read the rules of offside. Flagged Gornell off when he wasn't and didn't flag Boulding off when he scored!!! Oh well, shouldn't complain.

football19 · 04-09-2010, 18:23

shakermaker, to say the fullbacks had nightmares is very harsh , If you watched the way they played ( two forwards on our c.b s ) the fullbacks had to tuck in,hence relying on the five midfields to block the channel off.
This didnt happen forcing the fullbacks to break ranks and end up exposed in one on one situations.
Thought bateson had a good first half and didnt deano twice race 70 yards in the last 10 minutes to create chances for himself and charlie.
Whats your definition of nightmares ? As you must be watching a different game

cashman · 04-09-2010, 18:33

well agree i sure cant knock the full backs, wycombe were a damn good side, closed the reds down really well i thought, only disagreement i had today was MoM, n that was down to Hyndburn council............Nuff Said.

VALAIRIAN · 04-09-2010, 18:41

Refs/Liners??? Bull, takes a goal kick, then the ref orders him to take it again - pointing to the 2nd ball on the pitch - the ball (in play) is way up in Stanleys half!! Wycombe take a thrown in - score from it - with two balls on the pitch, the ref points to the centre spot????

People always say that things like this even themselves out over the season, but I do not think that is true

nige b · 04-09-2010, 18:42

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cheers shaker really appreciated R.I.P Coxy

yerself · 04-09-2010, 18:58

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shakermaker, to say the fullbacks had nightmares is very harsh

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Whats your definition of nightmares ? As you must be watching a different game

Leave the lad alone, He used to think Cav was a full-back.

Larry Lobster · 04-09-2010, 23:40

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Playing what is essentially a 4-5-1 at home (without an accomplished target man in the squad) is never going to get us enough goals. Away from home the formation and subsequent draws will be useful, but we need to score more at home and for that we need to play two or three up front.

Thought Winnard had a nightmare today, Bateson not much better but looked lively. We really did suffer from Putterill's absence with his incisive passing and high-pressure game being sorely missed.

Wycombe certainly won the physical battle against our young and small side, but offered little in forward play. The referee was pretty poor and should've made more of an effort to locate his cards. Overall, we were wasteful in front of goal and didn't play anywhere near our top levels. Would expect some to lose their spot for the next game.

A fair draw all in all, but we must learn from faults of this game to move forward.

That's a very harsh assessment of League 2 fullbacks. Where you expecting to see Ashley Cole? or perhaps Roberto Carlos? I thought both had good games and provided great attacking options, along with their defensive duties. Bateson I though had an excellent first half where he played a couple of great through balls to the forwards and put in a couple of excellent crosses. Winnard made two or three great surging runs that ended in attempts on goal.

You say we never played anywhere near our top levels. I thought some of the passing football, particularly in the first half was a delight to watch. Wycombe are going to be one of the better sides in this Division and Stanley where a match for them.

All in all i think it was a terrific match with the team worthy of far more than the criticism aimed at them in your review of the match.

Mr Matthew · 05-09-2010, 01:19

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shakermaker, to say the fullbacks had nightmares is very harsh , If you watched the way they played ( two forwards on our c.b s ) the fullbacks had to tuck in,hence relying on the five midfields to block the channel off.
This didnt happen forcing the fullbacks to break ranks and end up exposed in one on one situations.
Thought bateson had a good first half and didnt deano twice race 70 yards in the last 10 minutes to create chances for himself and charlie.
Whats your definition of nightmares ? As you must be watching a different game

I wasn't at the match. but a statement from Winnard's dad means nowt to me

shakermaker · 05-09-2010, 01:32

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That's a very harsh assessment of League 2 fullbacks. Where you expecting to see Ashley Cole? or perhaps Roberto Carlos?

Don't be facetious. It's not about expectation. Watching Accrington Stanley for over a decade you learn not to be expectant of anything. However there is a definite gap between the best performances I've seen of Bateson/Winnard and the display they put on today. Winnard has certainly had a shaky start to the season, which is not helped by the lack of protection he's being given down his flank.

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I thought both had good games and provided great attacking options, along with their defensive duties. Bateson I though had an excellent first half where he played a couple of great through balls to the forwards and put in a couple of excellent crosses. Winnard made two or three great surging runs that ended in attempts on goal.

We must have been watching an entirely different game. I only saw Winnard's runs end in him being boxed in among the opposition's defences, simply because he's not an attacking midfield player; unable to spot passes like Putterill or Ryan. I'd lost count of the amount of Winnard's sideways and backwards passes today. It was like Anthony Barry playing at left-back. I agree that it's good to have forward looking full-backs, always looking to overlap and attack. However if they start to yield little from their attempts (as apparently only I saw today) then it may be better to simplify things. So often the best defences in this league are the ones with four centre half players across the back, rather than the more appealing inclusion of attacking full backs.

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You say we never played anywhere near our top levels. I thought some of the passing football, particularly in the first half was a delight to watch. Wycombe are going to be one of the better sides in this Division and Stanley where a match for them.

There was a few flashes where Ryan and McConville in particular worked well with Gornell dropping deep, but overall I thought our play was scrappy in comparison to earlier games. Again, it's not about expectation; more of a will to force some kind of positive consistency that has been lacking in our Football League seasons.

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All in all i think it was a terrific match with the team worthy of far more than the criticism aimed at them in your review of the match.

A terrific match? Well that's just silly.

p.s. My admittedly harsh remarks in the original post may have been made with a slightly 'knowing cheek' that a certain fanboy would jump to the mentioned player's defence. Apologies!

Outback Ozzy · 05-09-2010, 06:32

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN

Refs/Liners??? Bull, takes a goal kick, then the ref orders him to take it again - pointing to the 2nd ball on the pitch - the ball (in play) is way up in Stanleys half!! Wycombe take a thrown in - score from it - with two balls on the pitch, the ref points to the centre spot????

People always say that things like this even themselves out over the season, but I do not think that is true

Best point made on the whole subject

Outback Ozzy · 05-09-2010, 07:08

BBC iPlayer - The Football League Show: 2010/2011: Episode 5

The moment after 44 minutes and 42 seconds of the show that there is proof that Wycombe's goal should not have stood, clearly 2 balls on the pitch after the throw in had been taken.