Wycombe Match Thread - Page 2

DAV007 · 02-11-2013, 19:33

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AND we're off the bottom. Who wants to sack the Manager now?

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drink from his half-empty glass.

half empty or realistic?

any news on Lee Naylor?

FrankMoody · 02-11-2013, 19:42

Mistake IMO not to play big Kay from the start, he is a better target man than Gray, and Gray is more effective as a 2nd striker, and much better than Webber.

Is Webber too 'big' a name to drop for JB? I thought Kay was a cert to start instead of him.

Naismith really poor today, can't really fault his effort but every time he gets it he wants 20 touches and to beat 3 men. Thought McCarten may be given a try wide right sometime (cos he ain't a forward), his best performance of the season was Bury away 2nd half in that position.

Another point, another Betoneli awesome performance.

Gray & Kay to start up top next sat (unless the big fella can't play cos it's the cup) and if not Gray and Bowerman

lancsdave · 02-11-2013, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Redraine

Our little Clayton End group were disappointed but not surprised before the match to find that Kayode was on the bench.

As one of my more knowledgable coaching friends tell me, he might as well be on the bench for the distance he has to come back and get the ball because of the gap between midfield and front line. Imagine how much damage he could do if he was actually playing up front most of the game, and didn't have to venture further back than the D on the edge of the box

DAV007 · 02-11-2013, 20:38

The midfield is where we are the most weakest, the central midfield area is crying out for some quality.
Why cant Beattie see it?

smudgie · 02-11-2013, 20:40

Well my first two pence worth in a few weeks.

Positives First.

The Pitch

Fair play to Buzzer and the club, its the worst conditions ive seen in a long time and the pitch stood up brilliantly. Only taken them 40 years but AT LAST, it seems to be sorted

The Defence

For me, the back 4 & keeper actually looked a half decent unit today. Benitelli has proved to be a real find, the save in the first half was the best ive seen at the Crown for many a year. I thought the back 4 actually looked a decent unit. Aldred and Hunt where by far the best players wearing red today. Wilson obviously wasn't fully fit and looked miles off the pace, hopefully Naylor injury isnt too bad???

Also Odejayi I thought was great when he came on. The lad really is a work horse, reminds me of a certain Paul Mullin, NEVER gives up a lost cause. No doubt it was his presence that led to the goal.

You have to hand it to Murph, he was almost a passenger throughout but fair play to him, he was there when it really mattered.

As for the match itself, a real smash n grab. They without doubt should of had at least 1 penalty, and we got away with murder. But am I bothered ??? AM I HELL

Negatives.

The Midfield.

Absolutely non-existent for me, Joyce?? Please somebody tell me what he is contributing to the side??? Naismith had an absolute shocker too, also really looked like he gave up in the last 20 minutes, which wasn't great to see. Mingoia tried his heart out, but is he really a left winger?? Not sure for me??

Up front

Webber..... Nowhere near fully fit for me. Looked knackered after 45 minutes.

Gray......... Very average today, fair play he has scored a few in the last few weeks and has taken his chance but today wasn't his day. Lots of effort but spent more time moaning and being on the deck than running. His 1 on 1 effort could have cost us massively. Not sure why he threw a tantrum when he was taken off either???? He deserved to be taken off??

To summarize..... A stanley team of a few weeks ago would have folded under the pressure, so fair to them for getting back into the game. Yes we looked VERY average going forward BUT we are out of that losing habit and with no super long distance away games till January this really is our chance to make the move up the table.

On Stanley On

Chubbyman · 03-11-2013, 00:15

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Originally Posted by div3north

only two sides not lost in their last five - us and pompey

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and we're off the bottom. Who wants to sack the manager now?

jc .....jb......& dav007.....

Chubbyman · 03-11-2013, 00:26

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Originally Posted by Div3North

AND we're off the bottom. Who wants to sack the Manager now?

half empty or realistic?

any news on Lee Naylor?

Have you checked the other half of your glass?

Pendle Red · 03-11-2013, 07:56

It was certainly poor Fayre dished up yesterday by Stanley in patches but the main thing was we took something from the game which we did.

It is a work in progress but four weeks ago would anybody bar those who knew the players forseen us go on a five game unbeaten run?

There is more to come from the team and yesterday we had definite options from the bench with players coming back from suspension and injury which can only help strengthen the team on the pitch and push us further up the League.

football19 · 03-11-2013, 10:29

Nine points from five games is automatic promotion form!!,lots of options on the bench/squad,but I do agree that when you play 4-4-2 and your wide men are not on there game,it can be difficult

Revived Red · 03-11-2013, 10:44

If only Odejayi had been on from the start, it would have been a very different game. He was winning just about every long ball against the two big defenders and he was a natural target at throw ins. Before his arrival, those centre backs must have been having one of their easiest ever games. James Gray reminds me more and more of Podge. Non-stop running and effort, but little end product and far too easily outmuscled.

As others have said, there were some real disappointments, notably Webber and Naismith.

Midfield is a worry. I happen to think it is more of a tactical problem than one of individuals. I am probably in a minority but I feel sorry for Luke Joyce because I feel that too much is being expected of him in our current set-up. His options as a creative midfield player are very limited. Murphy seems to have a wandering role and can't be relied on to be in space to receive a telling pass. The hard-working Mingoia is not a natural left winger (or even left-footer), nor for that matter is Naismith a natural right winger (or a right-footer). The first reaction of both is to cut inside, towards an already crowded midfield. So it seems to my naive mind that Joyce has limited options when he gets the ball. For threats from the wing, we have to rely on Hunt and Naylor/Wilson/Liddle. Yesterday, Hunt made a couple of great forays forward but Wilson had his hands full against a lively right winger. Anyway, just my thoughts!

Redraine · 03-11-2013, 12:04

Agree with most of that, RR, but Mingoia made several moves down the outside of his full back and got in some decent crosses or cut backs, as he did for Murph's winning goal at Morecambe. My main beef (of many) with Joyce is that when he receives the ball in an attacking position he invariably goes for a sideways pass instead of driving forward and committing defenders, giving the opposing defence time to organise. That, as well as being content to knock the ball anywhere when under pressure in midfield. However, I would never question the effort he always puts in, but we need more than that.

Redraine · 03-11-2013, 13:55

Common sense from the Wycombe forum:-

"..a typical example of "put on your high-viz jacket and hang your brain on the peg till later". Trying to force people to sit at front of their 3 row "stand" in a monsoon because "that's the rules" was just silly and unnecessary"

Don't think standing at the back would have helped, though, as the monsoon was coming at them horizontally.

DAV007 · 03-11-2013, 15:43

redraine,
I hope the club realise that the stewarding goes along way to leaving an impression with an away fans experience and opinion of our club.

I am no fan of SOME of the stewards at our club, they make work for themselves looking for any excuse to show who is boss.
I use the word some as I do not know them all and I'm sure there must be some decent ones.

Exile on Spencer St · 03-11-2013, 16:11

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Originally Posted by DAV007

redraine,
I hope the club realise that the stewarding goes along way to leaving an impression with an away fans experience and opinion of our club...

Quite agree, Davo. Rarely being able to get to home games but I can confirm that club's stewards are the main impression for away fans. Fortunately, most are good humoured, Wycombe's being some of the most pleasant, but it only takes one to sour everyone's impression of a club. Cheltenham employ one in particular who looks like he's swallowed a wasp and seems downcast if he can't generate a bit of trouble.

smudgie · 03-11-2013, 16:21

I will add to that what a great set of fans Wycombe have. Ive always enjoyed going away with their brilliant stewards, which put ours to shame really.

Also had a great natter with a couple of them in the Crown beforehand.

Im sure they will be in the top 8 come May.