2011 Census

churchman phil said:
DoB is for all in the house. It could identify trends in when babies are being born, which sections of society, whether it ties in with boom or bust in the economy, average family size, etc etc etc....
This in turn leads to other things like location of schools (how many future pupils?), housing (how many beds?), benefits (how much more can the country borrow?) and lots more.

It isn't just about you now Mr D it's about your childrens future too....
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I do appreciate the alleged reasons, but I cant see how asking the questions it does will allow for future planning, who knows in 2012 lets say we could be hitting WW3. Lets plan and act in the NOW not in the future, If we screw up now the future's not going to be any better.

Your right it is about my childrens future and I dont like the way this country/world is going, someone has to raise the debate, ask the questions ect.:)

katex said:
It is good that you question Mr D .. nowt wrong with that. At least we still have the freedom to do this, just not the freedom to ignore this form.

DOB ? ... well, amongst these stastics will give a view of what time of year most babies are born in order to alert the Health Authority (or when they are conceived and having the most fun ... :D )
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Thankyou, I do like to question most things and yes we do still have the freedom to question, but for how long.

Would they not have all this information already though (Birth & Deaths)? and to leave a gap of 10 years? doesnt give a true statistic IMO.
 
***Mr D*** said:
I feel a As and when aproach would be a better solution. give facilities as and when needed not a guess from a form.

If I look back 10 years, things have change for me a lot.



I am looking at it with a open mind.

Im looking at it saying, do we not have a choice, I may answer freely the questions, but there may be some I feel is none of there business.

The thing is we do not know EXACTLY what questions will be asked, as it states it can change at any time.

Also Why do they need a DOB, would age not be enough?

Help the government with forward planning, They already have a plan.:rolleyes:
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Well Mr D you have the option, fill in the form and carry on with life, or don't fill it in an get plenty of grief and a whopping big fine, simples as the Meerkats say :D
 
jaysay said:
Well Mr D you have the option, fill in the form and carry on with life, or don't fill it in an get plenty of grief and a whopping big fine, simples as the Meerkats say :D
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Your right I do have the option, fine up to £1.000 not that big really.:D

How would they know If I filled it in correctly or not.;):D
 
***Mr D*** said:
Your right it is about my childrens future and I dont like the way this country/world is going, someone has to raise the debate, ask the questions ect.:)
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Quite right, so get everyone together and we can sort this mess out instead of just asking the questions.

Or is that easier said that done??
 
churchman phil said:
Quite right, so get everyone together and we can sort this mess out instead of just asking the questions.

Or is that easier said that done??
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Defenatly easier said than done.

Where would you start?

A idea would be us as the people the soverigns of this country reallise that we ellect the goverment so really they work for us. We should have a greater imput on the law/leglislations that apply are made. (but this is a topic for another debate sometime).:D
 
***Mr D*** said:
Would they not have all this information already though (Birth & Deaths)? and to leave a gap of 10 years? doesnt give a true statistic IMO.
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Not enough information here ... only registring the child's birth for example (and in the main, who the fathers is :rolleyes:), but not saying whether they will be living together and how many siblings, relations will be living in a specific household at a given time, which is the whole point of the census. Can link up a step father to a child in the same household, and not presume that the biological father will be there, he will probably be living with another family ... as is happening more and more these days.

Planning to build new facilities cannot be done overnight. How will your local council decide how many refuse bins will be needed within the next 10 years and to allocate their funds accordingly LOL.... would have to do their own census ... so back to square one .... :)

***Mr D*** said:
Defenatly easier said than done.

Where would you start?

A idea would be us as the people the soverigns of this country reallise that we ellect the goverment so really they work for us. We should have a greater imput on the law/leglislations that apply are made. (but this is a topic for another debate sometime).:D
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Again, as you stated, we elect our Government to make the majority of decisions for us. What is the alternative if we, the people, were to decide on all laws/legislation ? ... more form filling in I'm afraid, and never any agreements.

I, myself, would not have the legal and economic knowledge to decide on certain issues, and sure plenty like me. (Just know what the next post is gonna' say .. :D )
 
Here you go, the law that says you must do it if you want to look for exemptions :D

Now just remember all, put "Jedi" down as your religion :D
 
All the census will show is that there are just too many people on that little island of yours;)
 
Eric said:
All the census will show is that there are just too many people on that little island of yours;)
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And the country of your birth Eric .. .sure you will show up on a Census at sometime when released ... :eek:
 
Seem to recall that a census was the reason that Jesus ended up being born in the stable, and the info in the Domesday Book came from a similar exercise. I think it's a valuable tool if used correctly, and I can't really understand the paranoia being exhibited in the replies here.:confused:
 
Eric said:
What isn't:confused: ... being a Jedi:eek:
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Daft sod ... :D

lindsay ormerod said:
Seem to recall that a census was the reason that Jesus ended up being born in the stable, and the info in the Domesday Book came from a similar exercise. I think it's a valuable tool if used correctly, and I can't really understand the paranoia being exhibited in the replies here.:confused:
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Think they were originally done, even in our Middle Ages to know who to collect taxes from or where the young men were to serve in the military. Not now of course.
 
Might not be compulsory but it got it made a religion, I wonder if it will be included on the next one as an option? :D

Perhaps we can start spreading the idea to put another new religion down, perhaps the "church of the web addict" :D
 
***Mr D*** said:
Your right I do have the option, fine up to £1.000 not that big really.:D

How would they know If I filled it in correctly or not.;):D
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Ve hav vays of making you conform:D and if you think that a grand ain't much, any chance of a rough sub till better days:rolleyes::D
 
mattylad said:
Might not be compulsory but it got it made a religion, I wonder if it will be included on the next one as an option? :D

Perhaps we can start spreading the idea to put another new religion down, perhaps the "church of the web addict" :D
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The broad church of Accy Web sonds just right mattylad:D
 
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