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Crown Grounder said:
There you go again.........I don't see or agree with your use of the word " embarassing". Still let's not get bothered about that. See you at Morecambe next Saturday.
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You clearly implied (#1913) that I was quote; 'embarrassed by Accrington Stanley, it's a achievements & supporters'
What is embarrassing, considering our clubs remarkable success, is its lack of support.
Or perhaps we should be proud of Accringtons stubborn refusal to appreciate its greatest asset?
Ps. Already got me ticket for Morecambe mate, see you there!
 
Support for the club from the town is shocking.
Support from the fans is superb.

I think years of Stanley being a bit of a joke grates a lot of supporters of a certain vintage. I would posit this is where some supporters' intolerance for criticism of the club comes from.
 
Fascinating insight by Andy Holt on twitter this morning about the Dion Charles situation and how Stanley operate in the transfer market and the funding of the academy and under 23,s, also how we trawl non league for potential " golden nuggets " I urge anyone on here who doesn't use twitter to start just to read Andy,s posts.
 
Inspector Morse said:
Support for the club from the town is shocking.
Support from the fans is superb.
I think years of Stanley being a bit of a joke grates a lot of supporters of a certain vintage. I would posit this is where some supporters' intolerance for criticism of the club comes from.
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Spot on 'I.M.'
Unfortunately, some decided to view my earlier comment on poor home attendance as an insult against the club & its supporters, where none was intended.
Any criticism was aimed at stay-away fans. You know the type - the ones who'll turn up in droves if we draw Ronaldo in the FA Cup!
 
Lord Stiffupperlip said:
Spot on 'I.M.'
Unfortunately, some decided to view my earlier comment on poor home attendance as an insult against the club & its supporters, where none was intended.
Any criticism was aimed at stay-away fans. You know the type - the ones who'll turn up in droves if we draw Ronaldo in the FA Cup!
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every club in the land gets some of them no good bothering about it live with it.
 
Lord Stiffupperlip said:
You clearly implied (#1913) that I was quote; 'embarrassed by Accrington Stanley, it's a achievements & supporters'
What is embarrassing, considering our clubs remarkable success, is its lack of support.
Or perhaps we should be proud of Accringtons stubborn refusal to appreciate its greatest asset?
Ps. Already got me ticket for Morecambe mate, see you there!
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Understood. It was never my intention to offend you. Facts in themselves can't be embarassing, it is only people who can be enbarassed. It's semantics lets move on. Glad you can get to next weeks game. Come on Stanley!!
 
Great to see more progress at the " poorly supported club " with the continuation of the 3 year plan for the playing surface with the probably last piece in the jigsaw of the stitching in of the Hybrid system that will fingers crossed prove to keep the surface in tip top shape throughout the season. Might not rival long standing clubs attendance,s but the pitch will rival some of the best in the country, wonder if that comparison will bring any such negative response,s as the previous post ��
 
Re Hartlepool game
I remember Crooks played up front in this game and missed a sitter in front of the Clayton End. I didnt realise he had come on for Wyke of all people.
 
andyd said:
Great to see more progress at the " poorly supported club " with the continuation of the 3 year plan for the playing surface with the probably last piece in the jigsaw of the stitching in of the Hybrid system that will fingers crossed prove to keep the surface in tip top shape throughout the season. Might not rival long standing clubs attendance,s but the pitch will rival some of the best in the country, wonder if that comparison will bring any such negative response,s as the previous post ��
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Andy,
Stats for stats sake.
Even you should realise comparing those two games and attendances was pointless.
Accrington v Donny

10/18 2327
4/19 7222
12/19 7444
8/21 2223

Proves nothing.
 
cashman said:
i think some may forget we are 5/6 miles between blackburn and burnley and in 62 when we had no team many football fans went to those clubs and took the kids with em, when yeh have only ever watched 1 club why would yeh go stanley? that sort of thing dont happen imho.me and a few more came back cos we wouldnt have gone in the first place, thats what i think.
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as kids you start going to games with a parent or similar. no kid between 1962 and 2006 had the opportunity to watch league football in accrington so went somewhere else. non league is fine for some but is not everyones cupof tea. anyone born the day stanley were kicked out could be actually in a position by 2006 not taking their kids for their first game but their grandkids.
 
andyd said:
Tuesday evening 21st, October 2014 3-1 victory against Hartlepool in league 2 attendance 947 and I
was proud to be there to witness the victory. 4517 yesterday a rise of 377%. .
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doubt there is a team in league football with an increase like that for a league game. my local team halifax town rarely got attendances like that when they were in the third tier of the league in a town of 90,000 plus inhabitants with larger towns like brighouse and elland close by.
 
My point about attendance,s at Stanley isn't about proving points or stats it's just some fans are " embarrassed or mad or whatever we don't get full house,s every week " it doesn't work like that we aren't stuck in a fifties time warp there is so much more on offer than a freezing night at the Wham we are going in the right direction, pitch Fabulous, training ground close, Fabulous facilities being created the hardest thing is dragging people along but I am confident we will reach 3000+ or even 3500+ average gates which would be a marvelous achievement in a relatively short space of time.
 
Twenty Eight said:
Andy,
Stats for stats sake.
Even you should realise comparing those two games and attendances was pointless.
Accrington v Donny

10/18 2327
4/19 7222
12/19 7444
8/21 2223

Proves nothing.
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Exackerley Twenty Eight….
However, it does prove that you can read and type correctly!:theband:
 
andyd said:
My point about attendance,s at Stanley isn't about proving points or stats it's just some fans are " embarrassed or mad or whatever we don't get full house,s every week " it doesn't work like that we aren't stuck in a fifties time warp there is so much more on offer than a freezing night at the Wham we are going in the right direction, pitch Fabulous, training ground close, Fabulous facilities being created the hardest thing is dragging people along but I am confident we will reach 3000+ or even 3500+ average gates which would be a marvelous achievement in a relatively short space of time.
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Agree up to the point about the average gates. Only a year on year realistic play off push with a wembley appearance would do that. Finishing mid table even in div.1 year on year out will possibly seea few drift away. Like you said we are not in the 50,s anymore where its your local club or nothing. Even a fall from grace of our two local rivals would not see that many extra at the wham. far more to actually do in and out of our homes nowadays to keep families and individuals happy. think every single club in the country at every level have realistic figures of attendances they expect. think stanley are no different.
 
monkey hanger said:
Agree up to the point about the average gates. Only a year on year realistic play off push with a wembley appearance would do that. Finishing mid table even in div.1 year on year out will possibly seea few drift away. Like you said we are not in the 50,s anymore where its your local club or nothing. Even a fall from grace of our two local rivals would not see that many extra at the wham. far more to actually do in and out of our homes nowadays to keep families and individuals happy. think every single club in the country at every level have realistic figures of attendances they expect. think stanley are no different.
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Which brings us back to the start of the debate we in modern day circumstances are doing remarkably well.
 
Fleetwood town,s accounts up to June 2020 show operating losses of over £20 million and owe owner Andy Pilley around £21 million incredible for a club about the same size of us.
 
Interesting piece in today's Lancashire Telegraph about how much the falling crowds at Ewood are of concern to the club, their last Tuesday evening game drawing 9141 their lowest crowd in 30 years, reading that I,m so glad we have a great smaller capacity ground must be awful in a larger ground to create an atmosphere.
 
andyd said:
Interesting piece in today's Lancashire Telegraph about how much the falling crowds at Ewood are of concern to the club, their last Tuesday evening game drawing 9141 their lowest crowd in 30 years, reading that I,m so glad we have a great smaller capacity ground must be awful in a larger ground to create an atmosphere.
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so true especially with fans spread all over the place. anyone who has ever been to odsal stadium in bradford watching RL can testify that. so many clubs want these new larger grounds that they,ll possibly fill once a season if they drop lucky in the fa cup or a local derby they have not had for years.
 
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