Black Friday

Perhaps they had already taken a lead from the TV showing all the riots in the US?

No need to look across the Atlantic Mr Y the Tottenham riots in the aftermath of the shooting of Mark Duggan maybe?

Incidentally I am intrigued that the bulk of the Black Friday troubles if the BBC is to be believed happened in the North of England.

Not rioting in my book, just selfish, me me me people wanting to get something on the cheap .
 
There is nothing material that I want so much that I would get into a scrum to get it.
I wonder if the people concerned could see that they had lost something worth more than money by getting into such scraps....their dignity and integrity....but then maybe those concepts are alien to them.
 
There is nothing material that I want so much that I would get into a scrum to get it.
I wonder if the people concerned could see that they had lost something worth more than money by getting into such scraps....their dignity and integrity....but then maybe those concepts are alien to them.
That fer my money, as i said many many times is the society created by You know who, imho.
 
That fer my money, as i said many many times is the society created by You know who, imho.

Are your children/grandchildren like this Cashy?
I am sure they aren't......I know mine aren't.
Some parents are not fit to rear budgies, never mind children......and those are the ones who encourage this kind of behaviour.
 
Are your children/grandchildren like this Cashy?
I am sure they aren't......I know mine aren't.
Some parents are not fit to rear budgies, never mind children......and those are the ones who encourage this kind of behaviour.
Agree, but were have many of these originated? I'm damn sure i know.;)
 
Well, I think a lot of it has to do with family values. Not just a single parent.......this is not to say that there are not some very capable single parents out there.......but children having children is always going to be a recipe for disaster.
 
I wouldn't waste my time queuing for a sale and risking getting crushed in the rush to bag a cheap item, if I need something I will go when the shop is not so busy and browse about a bit before I make a decision.
Saying all that I was looking at BT's infinity broadband sale on line today and thought I'd ring and plead the old pensioner and long term customer spiel.
I finished up ordering infinity 2 and keeping the unlimited downloads and evening and weekend calls I have now. I also a have BT vision box which is still included in the new deal. I get Sport 1 and 2 and something called ESNP thrown in.
So I upgraded to infinity and got it all for £0.85p less then I am paying now for normal broadband. Free delivery and set up by an engineer next week.

Total job lot just under £19 a month and I pay the rental yearly.
It's a 18 month contract and as I've been with BT since 1971 I doubt I will be changing.

All from the comfort of my settee.
 
I wouldn't waste my time queuing for a sale and risking getting crushed in the rush to bag a cheap item, if I need something I will go when the shop is not so busy and browse about a bit before I make a decision.
Saying all that I was looking at BT's infinity broadband sale on line today and thought I'd ring and plead the old pensioner and long term customer spiel.
I finished up ordering infinity 2 and keeping the unlimited downloads and evening and weekend calls I have now. I also a have BT vision box which is still included in the new deal. I get Sport 1 and 2 and something called ESNP thrown in.
So I upgraded to infinity and got it all for £0.85p less then I am paying now for normal broadband. Free delivery and set up by an engineer next week.

Total job lot just under £19 a month and I pay the rental yearly.
It's a 18 month contract and as I've been with BT since 1971 I doubt I will be changing.

All from the comfort of my settee.
That is the (sensible) way to do it.
 
After adopting the 'Black Friday' tradition from across the pond, we now need to prepare our country for some more activities that made America great.

Waterboarding, Sleep Deprivation, Solitary Confinement........

God Bless America
 
After adopting the 'Black Friday' tradition from across the pond, we now need to prepare our country for some more activities that made America great.

Waterboarding, Sleep Deprivation, Solitary Confinement........

God Bless America

And you don't think this happens already?
It has happened in training in the past, no reason to doubt that it still happens.
 
After adopting the 'Black Friday' tradition from across the pond, we now need to prepare our country for some more activities that made America great.

Waterboarding, Sleep Deprivation, Solitary Confinement........

God Bless America

Blair was complicit allowing rendition flights to refuel at Prestwick on the way to "black ops sites" in countries that were happy to use these methods of "err" interrogation way back then hyndburner
 
The rotten behaviour of British shoppers isn't the fault of the Americans...
Nah - it's just human nature. Collectively, we're a selfish species. Sure there are kind individuals out there, and I reckon none of those people who were televised would push a granny over to get to a TV if it were just the two of them trying to get to the last TV in the shop. For some reason, humans get stupid(er) when there are a lot of them in the same place.

Got myself a nice Black Friday deal today..saved £200 on the RRP. Thing is...Amazon kindly sent me an email telling me that an item on my watch list was 40% discounted for the next hour..logged on..ordered it..arrives wednesday..job done!...
So your hard earned cash is going out of the country, and isn't having any tax paid on it. Well done.

I try to only buy tangible stuff online when when it's something that just can't be bought here (like a replacement petrol tank for my car. You'd think Ford UK would carry spares for cars that were built this century, but noooo...

I know money is scarce, so people need to make savings wherever possible. However, buying from companies that a) stifle competition and b) don't pay their dues is just compounding the problem. The town centre shops close, you get more people needing handouts so that "discount" results in an increased tax bill.
 
It's the tax laws at fault not the companies. No company is going to pay more tax than they need to or their accountants won't have a job for long.
 
Agreed. Nobody wants to pay more tax than they can get away with, even individuals. Nobody wants to pay more for a product if there's a cheaper alternative. All I'm saying is that there are less-visible consequences of buying online and/or buying from tax evaders.
 
I agree there are and the government should close those loopholes. They won't though because they know many of those companies will just move abroad completely and still ship goods here because the EU common market lets them. They will choose the Country where they will pay the least tax and set up shop there. Europe will never work until taxation/benefits etc is the same in every Country. By benefits I don't just mean handouts but services as well like healthcare, cost and quality of public transport, cost of goods, wages etc
 
its a pitty amazon dont sell diesil and petrol although i must admit the prices have dropped a little but it wont be long before someone decides the economy needs a tweak so they will restrict the flow of oil and prices will rise again
 
its a pitty amazon dont sell diesil and petrol although i must admit the prices have dropped a little but it wont be long before someone decides the economy needs a tweak so they will restrict the flow of oil and prices will rise again
I listened to a BBC world service programme a few days ago about oil prices.
It seems that the saudis deliberately reduce the price of their oil in order to make fracking not worth doing. Fracking and other new ways of fossil fuel extraction are far more expensive to operate than conventional oil drilling. If the oil price is low enough, investment in fracking becomes unattractive and is discouraged. However this manipulation of the price by the main producer will likely last a few years only if past experience is anything to go by.
 
Nah - it's just human nature. Collectively, we're a selfish species. Sure there are kind individuals out there, and I reckon none of those people who were televised would push a granny over to get to a TV if it were just the two of them trying to get to the last TV in the shop. For some reason, humans get stupid(er) when there are a lot of them in the same place.


So your hard earned cash is going out of the country, and isn't having any tax paid on it. Well done.

I try to only buy tangible stuff online when when it's something that just can't be bought here (like a replacement petrol tank for my car. You'd think Ford UK would carry spares for cars that were built this century, but noooo...

I know money is scarce, so people need to make savings wherever possible. However, buying from companies that a) stifle competition and b) don't pay their dues is just compounding the problem. The town centre shops close, you get more people needing handouts so that "discount" results in an increased tax bill.

Wow....some major Luddite views there. Do you still go out on Harwood Moor, shear your sheep and weave your own woolen clothes on your handmade loom? My guess is your money has gone out of the country on your computer, your clothing, your camera, your car, your phone, your satnav, your dashboard camera..etc..etc..

Oh but wait..you've paid your taxes on these items (are you so sure of this? just because Amazon hit the headlines doesn't mean that the companies you bought your products from are not doing the same), you must feel so superior....well I've paid tax too, to the government and to the council. If a company is exploiting tax loopholes on their PROFITS...it's down to someone much cleverer than me to sort it out, thats what my taxes are supposed to pay for, airtight legislation, as opposed to MP's duck hides, furnishing for rented housing and other assorted goodie bag perks.

And by the way, who pays the wages of the guys in the chain from packing to delivery and which government gets the taxes on their wages? My purchase has also helped to keep people in this country in ACTUAL jobs!

Town centre shops were closing long before the advent of Amazon. The simple home freezer started the demise, people didn't need to shop for fresh foods as often, less browsing and impulse buys, supermarkets offering one stop shopping became the norm, successive councils screwed up etc..etc..

Do not lay the blame of people needing food banks/benefits on me with such ill thought out sanctimonious drivel
 
The very first line of the first post on this thread endorses what Studio25 is saying Mr G.

Nah - it's just human nature. Collectively, we're a selfish species. bill.


Got myself a nice Black Friday deal today..saved £200 on the RRP. Thing is...Amazon kindly sent me an email telling me that an item on my watch list was 40% discounted for the next hour..logged on..ordered it..arrives wednesday..job done!

You got the better of "the muppets" as you call them and wanted a pat on the back from the www. No caring, no sharing.
 
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