If we are out somewhere and there are no bins we bring our litter home. Why can't everyone do that? Why should cigarette stubs be an exception?
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They are not an exception, did I say that, did I ?? (In my best Catherine Tate impersonation ...
) Same way as food wrappers should not be an exception. So, Willow, when you are 'out somewhere' what type of litter do you have then. ?
They are not an exception, did I say that, did I ?? (In my best Catherine Tate impersonation ...
So, Willow, when you are 'out somewhere' what type of litter do you have then. ?
Did I say that they were? Did I direct my comments at you personally? I was responding to the thread. My point being that if I can take my litter home then surely others can take theirs (smokers included). You complain about your money providing litter bins for 'people who insist on feeding their faces outside in town centres' which is a rather offensive way of describing people who eat al fresco in town. You refer to them as 'bad-mannered people' because you were brought up to believe that people should not eat outdoors.
Look around and you'll see burger stands (outdoors), ice cream vans (outdoors) kiosk selling cold cans (outdoors) juice shop with one table and a couple of chairs but by and large the drinks are sold to be consumed outdoors. Times change Katex and people do eat and drink outdoors and where there are litter bins they hopefully place their litter in such bins.
I don't smoke but, unlike you complaining about litter bins for food wrappers/debris, I don't object to the provision of ashtrays attached to bins. In fact I think they are an excellent idea and it would make more sense to have more of them than not. However where they do not exist all I ask is why some smokers feel they then have the right to drop their stubs onto the floor. To me that seems more bad manners than eating or drinking.
You ask what type of litter I have when I am 'out somewhere' - please note that I did not say 'out somewhere' I said 'out somewhere where there are no bins' and that in my sentence I said that if I can take my litter home under those circumstances I don't see why smokers shouldn't do the same with their fag ends under similar circumstances. (I could lower myself to your level and say 'filthy disgusting smelly fag ends' but I'll resist that temptation
) So what does it matter what kind of litter I am referring to? It may be a sweet wrapper. It may be a drink bottle. It may be a paper bag. It could be anything. If there is a bin I will put it in a bin. If there is no bin then I will take it home.All that I said was why can't smokers do the same? If there is nowhere to dispose of their cigarette end why can't they just stub it out and take it home to dispose of it there? Likewise gum chewers - if they have nowhere to dispose of the gum why can't they wrap it in the paper it came in and take it home to put in the bin?
If everyone either binned their litter or took it home the pavements would be nice and clean for everyone (themselves included) - mind you a few street cleaners might not be too pleased at being put out of a job
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Now now kate when I take the wife out I always take her home with me, even though she is a darned smoker.
MY OLD MAN USED TO TELL A STORY THAT IF HE WENT INTO A PUB OR RESTAURANT TO EAT OR DRINK AND SOMEONE WAS SMOKING, HE USED TO SAY YOU HAVE A PLEASURE THAT IS SMOKING THE RESIDUE FROM YOUR PLEASURE IS CALLED SMOKE, IT GETS IN MY LUNGS IN MY CLOTHES AND ON MY FOOD, I ALSO HAVE A PLEASURE ITS CALLED DRINKING,THE RESIDUE FROM MY PLEASURE IS CALLED URINE SO IS IT OK IF I STAND UP AND P*SS all over you,it was funny and usually worked,but i would,nt like to try it(my dad was an ex miner and rugby player a big man)
Eeew hek, Willow, that's me in my place good and proper .. funnily enough agree with everything you say..did think a personal strike .. perhaps was just reacting to Ian's post about why should he provide ash tray for us sinners. (sorry Ian gotta' blame someone)
Ok, times have changed .. more like a fun fair in town centres now with all the eating stalls .. yes, living in the past I suppose, can't see me walking around with a burger and can of coke in my hand yet I'm afraid. Wouldn't even let my kids do it .. sit inside/outside in a designated eating area or starve was my instruction. Still don't think my son/daughter would do it even now. I also do feel that 'feeding their faces' was a correct expression, as usually in-between snacks and not part of the 3 meals a day acceptance.
Can't remember many rubbish bins in town when I was little, apart from some up on the lamposts in Burnley Road due to fact that her boyfriend picked her up (she was very petite) and sat her in it !!
Course I do love a picnic in the country/seaside and, like you, never left anything behind (perhaps a few crumbs for the birds)
Note to Mez: was behind a taxi driver coming home from work tonight at the Dill Hall traffic lights .. threw a lit stub out of the window. Mmmm thought I, wonder if any CCTV cameras here .. almost got out to tell him off .. so am changing my ways I suppose.
Ok, times have changed .. more like a fun fair in town centres now with all the eating stalls .. yes, living in the past I suppose, can't see me walking around with a burger and can of coke in my hand yet I'm afraid. Wouldn't even let my kids do it .. sit inside/outside in a designated eating area or starve was my instruction. Still don't think my son/daughter would do it even now. I also do feel that 'feeding their faces' was a correct expression, as usually in-between snacks and not part of the 3 meals a day acceptance.
Can't remember many rubbish bins in town when I was little, apart from some up on the lamposts in Burnley Road due to fact that her boyfriend picked her up (she was very petite) and sat her in it !!
Course I do love a picnic in the country/seaside and, like you, never left anything behind (perhaps a few crumbs for the birds)
Note to Mez: was behind a taxi driver coming home from work tonight at the Dill Hall traffic lights .. threw a lit stub out of the window. Mmmm thought I, wonder if any CCTV cameras here .. almost got out to tell him off .. so am changing my ways I suppose.
"A smouldering cigarette end started the fire in the Mont Blanc tunnel which killed 39 people last year, the newspaper Le Parisien reported yesterday...
The cigarette end, thrown from another vehicle, entered the lorry's air intake, setting fire to the air filter and then the entire engine..."
--Electronic Telegraph (UK), May 6, 2000
The cigarette end, thrown from another vehicle, entered the lorry's air intake, setting fire to the air filter and then the entire engine..."
--Electronic Telegraph (UK), May 6, 2000
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You do not know that for certain. Some busy people don't have time to stop for a sit down meal. For others simply the cost of a restaurant is a deciding factor if they are out for the day with children, shopping or something. A quick pastie or sausage roll from Greggs serves to tide them over until they have a meal in the evenings. I wouldn't criticise them for that nor would I insult them with a phrase such as 'feeding their faces' when they are in fact feeding the whole of their bodies. The fact that you wouldn't do it doesn't give you the right to criticise them. Their food doesn't affect anyone else but passive smoking does. If someone walks past me eating a meat pie it has no effect on me but if someone walks past me smoking a cigarette it makes me cough.
Incidentally, I don't eat whilst I'm walking about outside but that's my personal preference. I believe other people should have the right to theirs.
That fire in the Mont Blanc tunnel was awful davo. You wouldn't imagine a simple cigarette end could have caused such tragedy would you?
I just remembered an incident a while back when I was crossing over the road near the vets in Whalley Rd - that pelican combination affair of a junction. Someone discarded a smouldering cigarette end from a car and it landed on the simulated fur collar of a coat of a woman coming towards us from the other side of the road. She wasn't even aware of it as this happened behind her. We had got to the other side before it registered properly, you know how it takes a minute sometimes before something dawns on you properly, and the lights changed so we had to wait but my daughter was pretty quick on her feet as soon as she was able to cross again and ran after her. There was smoke coming from her collar by the time my daughter caught up to her but fortunately it hadn't fanned into flames - the next thing that would have caught fire would have been her hair. Fortunate that she didn't have long hair wasn't it? At least with toffee wrappers you're not likely to kill or severely maim someone. Was it carelessness on the part of the driver or total disregard for anyone else? I'd like to think it was just the former and that he had thought he'd put it out before chucking it out, but what was wrong with his ashtray?
