Champix??

cashman said:
the thing that is "never" spoken about is the backhanders the GPs get for promoting certain drugs from the companies, so its good too weigh the pro's n con's n collate all yer info ya can get, the net is ace for that.;)an informed descision is always preferable to taking "as gospel" what yer quack tell you.
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Oh believe me, the problems we are having with Ginger and the doctors, is enough for me never to believe any of them ever again!! :(

I am quite clued up about medicines and symptoms etc.... thanks to having to research a hell of a lot on my own over the past 2 years. And yes, you're right about Dr's getting their little perks, that's why I will always look into things myself ;)

Even when my doctor prescribes my family tablet's, I look in my little magic medicine book and search the web for hours, just checking :D
 
slinky said:
Well I didn't go to the doctors, mainly because I want to know what I am pumping into my body before I start. I am not one of these people that hang on every word my doctor says.

Ginger went, the doctor said that he has given at least 300 prescriptions out last year for champix and he hasn't had any complaints. As I said, I don't just hang on their word.
The doctor told ginger that he would have to go to meetings at the hospital for a while before they will issue him with a prescription.

As for me, I will use willpower. After I read the Alan Carr book, I gave up quite easily for a week. And even though I failed after this time, I am still only smoking about 5-7 cigs a day. I still cannot smoke a full one either.... so I am getting there on my own really.
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It sounds like your GP hasn't quite got it right - he cannot prescribe Champix without permission from the smoking cessation clinic, he will not monitor you or see you through your treatment. The clinic writes you a letter of consent to give to your GP to issue a prescription each time you need one. I got it the first time I went, I didn't have to attend for weeks in advance.

You can go to the open clinic at Accy Vic or ring the NHS Smokefree line on 01254 358095/359183 to refer yourself and see an advisor one-to-one.

If you're only smoking 5-7 a day I don't think they would recommend Champix as you have to cut down to 10-a-day just before you start taking it. There's nothing lost in going to see them just to see if they can offer you some help or support.

You are right to be cautious about medications - I was at first after reading some forums on the internet and previous experience with allergic reactions to tablets. I decided to take a risk & try it - I'm only taking half the recommended dose and it's working for me, whereas patches, gum, inhalators & Paul McKenna didn't have any effect. Everyone is different but no matter which way you decide to quit you always need willpower to avoid those 'habit' cigarettes.

PS - If you want to try the Paul McKenna Stop Smoking CD PM me and you can have it!
 
Awwwww Slinky, you were so confident after reading the Allan Carr book. What happened? :confused:

Re Champix, my husband has been taking them for a few weeks now and apart from a little queasiness after the morning tablet (because he will insist on taking it on an empty stomach as he doesn't do breakfast) he has had no side effects and is managing very well.

He didn't have to go to any classes or clinics. He just went and saw the nurse at our doctor's surgery and she gave him a prescription. He has to go back every 3 weeks to let her know how he's going on and he will be on Champix for 3 months altogether.

They're worth a try. If you do get any unpleasant side effects you can always stop taking them.
 
Lilly said:
Awwwww Slinky, you were so confident after reading the Allan Carr book. What happened? :confused:

I know, I know.... I am just as annoyed with myself as everyone else is. I'm not making excuses..... but I started smoking again after getting some bad news.... and a very disastrous journey home from Bilbao. BUT am confident tat now I have cut down.... I can cut all together. ( stupid stupid habit)

Re Champix, my husband has been taking them for a few weeks now and apart from a little queasiness after the morning tablet (because he will insist on taking it on an empty stomach as he doesn't do breakfast) he has had no side effects and is managing very well.

He didn't have to go to any classes or clinics. He just went and saw the nurse at our doctor's surgery and she gave him a prescription. He has to go back every 3 weeks to let her know how he's going on and he will be on Champix for 3 months altogether.

They're worth a try. If you do get any unpleasant side effects you can always stop taking them.
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It's the long term effects that bother me. Until this drug has been completely tested, I am not going to be anyones guinea pig.

I do not fully trust doctors as it is, so I cannot take their word for it. :o
 
It has been tested on 4000 people slinks - the only thing was none of them had epilepsy and even though the woman at the no smoking clinic said she had some people on it i aint risking it ive only just hit 4 months without a fit aint going to risk bringing em back. She also told me that they are asking people to fill the forms in as well and will be doing for the next 2 years as a follow up seeing as some people might have different reactions.
 
K.S.H said:
Read this weeks Observer, see front page :eek:

On-line HERE
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I read the observer this afternoon!! Told ya :D

I'm glad that this has been brought to light. It seems that the " powers that be" are playing down the side affects of this drug! people need to be aware of what they are taking on :(
 
K.S.H said:
Read this weeks Observer, see front page :eek:

On-line HERE
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what load of tosh ,you never see the good things in the papers about champix but one person suffers and the drug is dangerous

the guy probably either lied when asked if he had any psycological problems in his past or currently had any or was extremely unlucky

the packet comes with a list of possible side effects and its a long list but most people only suffer from mild insomnia or slight sickley feeling shortly after taking the tablet which goes away if you eat a biscuit or somthing

if i had listened to what i read on the internet about a treatment i was going to have i would be dead long ago

you are asked plenty of questions about your health and you are monitored and if you want to you can get your blood pressure monitored for free at superdug as champix can raise it a little

i would say go for the champix , a few weeks of POSSIBLE side effects to get rid of what fags do to you is well worth the trade if you ask me

remember the internet and papers are full of scaremongers and hypocondriacts

my 2 cents worth
 
Some people are more sensitive to drugs than others.
I have had bad side effects to many drugs in the past so am very wary of them all.
 
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