Gadaffi captured

Gaddy was finished of with a 9mm pistol; Binny was taken out with an assault weapon with a 'dum dum' bullet which took off half his head as well as the body shots. That's one of the reasons why his piccy's were never shown. Anyway - why do you want to know - presumably another conspiracy theory?
 
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Tealeaf said:
Gaddy was finished of with a 9mm pistol; Binny was taken out with an assault weapon with a 'dum dum' bullet which took off half his head as well as the body shots. That's one of the reasons why his piccy's were never shown. Anyway - why do you want to know - presumably another conspiracy theory?
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There is no such thing as a dum dum bullet, thats Hollywood fiction.
Dum Dum is an Arsenal in India, where a Captain Clay experimented with hollow nosed .303 bullets.
in was produced in Mk3, 4 & 5, before being outlawed at the Haigh Convention.
All the surplus stock was used on ranges for target practice, some spent bullets have been found on the old Hambledon Ranges at Hapton.

Retlaw.
 
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I know that this man was a dictator and had done some terrible things in his life, so why do I feel so bad about seeing him being manhandled and having such an undignified,tortured and terrible end?
And why does it sadden me to see people rejoicing at the loss of a mans life?

Today, the news coverage/video footage of this event seems so intrusive.......and while I know the people in Libya will need to see proof that this man has finally been defeated....do we need to see it all over the papers?
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
I know that this man was a dictator and had done some terrible things in his life, so why do I feel so bad about seeing him being manhandled and having such an undignified,tortured and terrible end?
And why does it sadden me to see people rejoicing at the loss of a mans life?

Today, the news coverage/video footage of this event seems so intrusive.......and while I know the people in Libya will need to see proof that this man has finally been defeated....do we need to see it all over the papers?
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Why should anyone feel bad about the corpse, when not too many had any positive feelings for the man when he was alive ... doesn't make too much sense to me. And I really don't see too much undignified about his end. He said he would not run away; that he would die fighting in Libya. And it seems as if that is what he did. I suppose that makes him one of the very few leaders who actually do what they say.:rolleyes:
 
Retlaw said:
There is no such thing as a dum dum bullet, thats Hollywood fiction.
Dum Dum is an Arsenal in India, where a Captain Clay experimented with hollow nosed .303 bullets.
in was produced in Mk3, 4 & 5, before being outlawed at the Haigh Convention.
All the surplus stock was used on ranges for target practice, some spent bullets have been found on the old Hambledon Ranges at Hapton.

Retlaw.
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Ooops...sorry Retlaw. I was simply using the term in a generic sense to refer to an expanding bullet.

Oh, by the way, it was Captain Bertie-Clay who experimented with both soft point and hollow point nosed variations on the .303 cartridge. I suspect you are also referring to the Hague Convention, not the Haigh Convention (whatever that might be) but may I suggest you also reference the Declaration of St Petersburg which preceded the Hague by a third of a century and renounced the use of such weaponry.
 
Eric said:
Why should anyone feel bad about the corpse, when not too many had any positive feelings for the man when he was alive ... doesn't make too much sense to me. And I really don't see too much undignified about his end. He said he would not run away; that he would die fighting in Libya. And it seems as if that is what he did. I suppose that makes him one of the very few leaders who actually do what they say.:rolleyes:
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I know what you are saying is essentially true, but that doesn't stop me feeling uncomfortable about it........not that he didn't run away....he said he would die in Libya, and so in that respect he got his wish.

But, however you look at it his end was undignified......he was tossed about, and if reports are to be believed he was, if not begging for mercy, asking not to be killed.

Maybe it is my gender/background that makes me feel that his treatment was inhuman.(and yes, I know that what goes around comes around....he had done some very bad things)

Maybe the joyful scenes were not just the rejoicing of the overflow of this despot, but the hope that things can now be different. I hope so too, but I fear that it won't much alter the situation in region.
 
Tealeaf said:
Gaddy was finished of with a 9mm pistol; Binny was taken out with an assault weapon with a 'dum dum' bullet which took off half his head as well as the body shots. That's one of the reasons why his piccy's were never shown. Anyway - why do you want to know - presumably another conspiracy theory?
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Is he dead or is he not:confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
Just wondering if we will now get answers and conviction of the person who killed policewoman Yvonne Flecture
 
Margaret Pilkington said:
I know what you are saying is essentially true, but that doesn't stop me feeling uncomfortable about it........not that he didn't run away....he said he would die in Libya, and so in that respect he got his wish.

But, however you look at it his end was undignified......he was tossed about, and if reports are to be believed he was, if not begging for mercy, asking not to be killed.

Maybe it is my gender/background that makes me feel that his treatment was inhuman.(and yes, I know that what goes around comes around....he had done some very bad things)

Maybe the joyful scenes were not just the rejoicing of the overflow of this despot, but the hope that things can now be different. I hope so too, but I fear that it won't much alter the situation in region.
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Dictators and despots often meet undignified ends .... there are lots of examples in the historical record, some recent, some not. Not too much dignified about what happened to Richard lll (1485, I believe) ... and poor Cromwell, dug up and hanged ... and Mussolini: upside down from a lamp post.

In a way, I kinda admire the guy ... he was a little weird, but there again Michael Jackson wasn't all that normal either; however, he said he would win or he would die. He had the balls to face what he knew was his inevitable fate. Good for him.:alright:
 
Well I've just been on a newspaper website and they have published some picks of what appears to be his last minutes of life, Um caught in a cross-fire, think somebody is telling some porky pies, I see the UN has ordered an investigation into the manner of his death, which should be interesting
 
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jaysay said:
Well I've just been on a newspaper website and they have published some picks of what appears to be his last minutes of life, Um caught in a cross-fire, think somebody is telling some porky pies, I see the UN has ordered an investigation into the manner of his death, which should be interesting
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I didn't put the link to the website because the photos were a bit graphic and not really for the eyes of younger members
 
jaysay said:
Well I've just been on a newspaper website and they have published some picks of what appears to be his last minutes of life, Um caught in a cross-fire, think somebody is telling some porky pies, I see the UN has ordered an investigation into the manner of his death, which should be interesting
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Whilst the way of his end,aint exactly "Cricket" it reminds me of the owd saying "Yeh Live By The Sword" - "Die By The Sword" whilst i aint saying its right, its fully understandable how it came to pass,....unless yer a do-gooding numpty.:rolleyes:
 
Groove also thinks the pics on the front of todays newspapers are a bit too graphic and unsavoury.
 
Now Gaddafi has gone, they should re-arrest the Lockerbie bomber and extradite him back to Barlinnie to complete the rest of his sentence.

He is obviously not at deaths door or he would have died by now.
 
One item which everyone appears to have missed is that yesterday, the first indication in the House of Commons that the Colonel was captured or dead was raised in a point of order (in an otherwise droll planning debate) by a member of Accy Web.

Yep....step forward, Mr Jones! From the activities of crooked scrap metal merchants to the tyranical murder merchant of Sirte, our boy Graham is going places. Lets just hope come monday, he ignores the dubious dictators of Westminster, follows the overwhelming wishes of his constituents and votes 'Aye' for the EU referendum.
 
Eric said:
Dictators and despots often meet undignified ends .... there are lots of examples in the historical record, some recent, some not. Not too much dignified about what happened to Richard lll (1485, I believe) ... and poor Cromwell, dug up and hanged ... and Mussolini: upside down from a lamp post.

In a way, I kinda admire the guy ... he was a little weird, but there again Michael Jackson wasn't all that normal either; however, he said he would win or he would die. He had the balls to face what he knew was his inevitable fate. Good for him.:alright:
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Yes......I realise that dictators and despots usually get their comeuppance........I just don't really want to see how gruesome men can be to each other. Maybe that is a fault in me....and I'm not saying the news must be sanitised for people like me........tell me about it, but please spare me the gruesome pictures.

Eric, just as an aside....has anybody ever defined what 'normal' is?
 
Groove thinks Elton John should release a song to commemorate this event...."Sandle in the wind".
 
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