Gun Crime?

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cashman

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just seen on tv, the government are supposedly going to close the loophole in the law that says a person carrying a gun will get a mandatory 5 years in prison.apparently at the moment you do if you are 21,they want to reduce this to 17years old. now excuse me but how is this going to make any differance?any one of any age wether 15 or 50 etc should be encompassed by this law, what i,m saying basically is this SHOULD APPLY to ANY AGE. anyone disagree?
 
Quite a serious deterrent. Gun crime in the UK is on the up. I just think they should tackle it to stop it getting worse.
 
how many people get killed before they catch the person with a gun?

their are cases where peopel shoudl own a gun like a farmer for example but there is no reason for joe public to own one so if found witha gun no matter what age you are then 20 years inside shoudl do teh trick
 
With respect, I think a lot of people forget that a few years ago Joe Public used to be permitted to own a handgun in this country, and but for some nutter in Hungerford and Dunblane going berserk where sadly a lot of people lost their lives which in itself was a dreadful consequence, but the law was passed that owning a handgun was illegal by the do gooders and a lot of law abiding people lost a perfectly good hobby and this action has done nothing to reduce gun crime in this country, in fact it was almost never heard of that a robbery or gang shooting being done with a legally registered firearm, there was the same black market in illegal firearms as there is today.
 
i thought peopel who shot for a hobby had their guns kept at the gun club which ithink was a good idea as it meant them not been in the home
 
I dont think it'll make much difference to the kids who carry guns, I'm sure they wont think "I'm 17 now better not carry the gun", also aren't our prisons full, where are they all going to go?
 
grego said:
I dont think it'll make much difference to the kids who carry guns, I'm sure they wont think "I'm 17 now better not carry the gun", also aren't our prisons full, where are they all going to go?
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ok new law

if caught with a gun the police can shoot you with it :D
 
chav1 said:
i thought peopel who shot for a hobby had their guns kept at the gun club which ithink was a good idea as it meant them not been in the home
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I'm not sure about that Chav, my Dad had a really good collection of handguns before the ban, it was a big hobby of his, he had to hand over the lot, dont think he had a choice of keeping them in a club.:)
 
grego said:
I'm not sure about that Chav, my Dad had a really good collection of handguns before the ban, it was a big hobby of his, he had to hand over the lot, dont think he had a choice of keeping them in a club.:)
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What about the shotguns for clay pidgeon shooting clubs?
 
Ernie said:
With respect, I think a lot of people forget that a few years ago Joe Public used to be permitted to own a handgun in this country, and but for some nutter in Hungerford and Dunblane going berserk where sadly a lot of people lost their lives which in itself was a dreadful consequence, but the law was passed that owning a handgun was illegal by the do gooders and a lot of law abiding people lost a perfectly good hobby and this action has done nothing to reduce gun crime in this country, in fact it was almost never heard of that a robbery or gang shooting being done with a legally registered firearm, there was the same black market in illegal firearms as there is today.
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there has always been a blackmarket in illegal firearms ernie,as you say,the Big differance now is you can pick them up in most small towns like accy,not just the big citys,also they are much more available these days.i am not against gun clubs and the like. i am against any local yob CARRYING firearms Whatever age they happen to be.and think the government is stupid restricting the age of the sentence.
 
I suppose the government bringing the age down from 21 to 17 is better than nothing but I agree Cashy that the same sentance should be given regardless of age.
 
grego said:
I suppose the government bringing the age down from 21 to 17 is better than nothing but I agree Cashy that the same sentance should be given regardless of age.
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Sadley the do gooder brigade would object to it on the grounds that at 17 they are still kids.
 
Like ernie says its not the legally held guns thats the problem there kept under lock and key , no matter how many times the police have an amnesty , if you know the right people you can get a weapon, i worked on club and pub doors for over twenty years , ive seen guns sold for 20-30quid , if it was up to methere would be no age limit:Banane20:
 
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